View Full Version : Kingdom Quests.... fix it please outspark....
-Zew-
08-28-2007, 07:11 AM
how you have your kingdom quests setup is bad it is almost impossible to get into one of them, why u thought of having it like this i don't know but ohwell......
XRultima
08-28-2007, 07:33 AM
I agree 100%. Kingdom Quest system in Open Beta is just TERRIBLE. The second u click to participate on the KQ(after waiting 20 minutes with ur hand on the mouse, hovering over "participate")Its full, And then the same happens the next few times till u gotta wait 2 hours to try again, just to fail. U should make KQs so that every 2-5 minutes theres a new one up. Terrible.. Just terrible.. especially since KQ is the only way to get good drops, Good XP, and actually have fun.
Gohan99
08-28-2007, 02:58 PM
if it was 1 ever 2-5 minutes then people could grind them non stop, my suggestion would be to do 1 of the following things:
Make it so theres about 10-15 rounds every 2 hours (every 2 or 1 minute) or
Create sub servers within the Teva server... 2 or 3 sub servers would greatly thin out the people waiting for and clicking on KQ.
Ydnardo888
08-28-2007, 03:03 PM
if it was 1 ever 2-5 minutes then people could grind them non stop, my suggestion would be to do 1 of the following things:
Make it so theres about 10-15 rounds every 2 hours (every 2 or 1 minute) or
Create sub servers within the Teva server... 2 or 3 sub servers would greatly thin out the people waiting for and clicking on KQ.
/SIGNED!!!
Perfect idea!!
Nevus
08-29-2007, 07:52 AM
Add KQ participation queue.
When every KQ round starts every player who is on top of the queue should accept participation (to skip AFKers) and is removed from queue (after KQ player starts again from the bottom of the queue).
Shokaah
08-29-2007, 09:09 AM
The idea of making KQ available every 2 minutes without downtime is possible. Devs should just do so that each player can only participate in one KQ within 2 hours.
Do the math : every 2 hours, 900 players could get in KQ, without the possibility of grinding it.
TastyTapioca
08-29-2007, 09:25 AM
But its also possible to abuse it too. These KQs give over 1,100 exp if completed.
If you have an experienced group and do it just right you can get into the first KQ (A) and rush through it with enough time left over to get into (F). Now if you managed both that's around 2,000 exp in a very short period of time.
In the end, people would abuse these KQs and leveling would become severly unbalanced very quickly.
SpazAttack
08-29-2007, 09:33 AM
[/url][url="http://www.fiestaonlinehq.com/"] ("/")Stop with*the KQ sucks posts....How can it be impossible to get in when 15 ppl get in.* CLICK FAST
 
-Spaz >:(*
Shokaah
08-29-2007, 09:47 AM
But its also possible to abuse it too. These KQs give over 1,100 exp if completed.
If you have an experienced group and do it just right you can get into the first KQ (A) and rush through it with enough time left over to get into (F). Now if you managed both that's around 2,000 exp in a very short period of time.
In the end, people would abuse these KQs and leveling would become severly unbalanced very quickly.
Unless devs make it so that players can enter a KQ only once in 2 hours.
Look : every 2 minutes there's a new KQ recruiting phase, but if you have participated a KQ 1 hour ago you can't enter this new one, cause you have to wait one more hour. I think this wouldn't be stupid.
-Zew-
08-29-2007, 10:34 AM
i may have stated this post and it is hard for other people but i found out my way to 100% get into kq, and if i say it others will do it than it wont be 100% for me :D
Ghostdogg
08-29-2007, 05:00 PM
prove it! hehe
-Zew-
08-29-2007, 06:17 PM
only way i can prove it is if u where in the game with me and watch me get into it, otherwise i aint telling how i am doing it because as i said than will be harder for me
Deedolith
08-29-2007, 07:09 PM
Spaz seriously, it take less than 1/10 of a sec for KQs to fill up. It isn't click fast, it is clicking reflexs at that lvl. (I guess you're able to do the KQs you want atm hu ?)
Mara KQs (and beyond) arn't an issue right now, bc there arn't much ppl lvl 17+, but tomorow problems will occure.
Also, increasing the amount of KQs available isn't a solution, because in that case, the game will turn into a lvling race.
SpazAttack
08-29-2007, 07:34 PM
You know what? I havn't gotten into a god damn KQ yet and im not complaining. Be a good sport and keep trying. People dont seem to be able to realise the game is BRAND new its not a perfect game. And im really getting annoyed at froobs like you who just got into OB and decided to complain about the game
ASCIIrider
08-29-2007, 07:43 PM
[/url][url="http://www.fiestaonlinehq.com/"] ("/")Stop with*the KQ sucks posts....How can it be impossible to get in when 15 ppl get in.* CLICK FAST
 
-Spaz >:(*
15X5= only 75 in every 2 hours. Server population 3X that JUST sitting in Roumen alone.
In one day of open beta I wouldn't be suprised if the server numbers are 4-5 times higher thanthe korean version, yet they use the same format for it.
What works in a country of 45 million does NOT work in a global community of 6.6 billion, even allowing for things like people with noc omputers*no internet etc. the possible playerbase in a global community is about 100 million minimum who CAN play. and if Fiesta only gets 1% that's still 1 million possible.
The game needs to meet the minimum system reqirements like it tells people, 128K sppeed, not those on t3 fiberoptics who live 10 feet (exaggeration)from the server and have .0001 picoseconds of lag.
Let's face it the KQ system right now DOES suck as the demand far outweighs the supply.
lordleonhart
08-29-2007, 09:23 PM
Doesn't seem to have anything to do with how fast you click... literally all day I tried everyone of them sitting there watching the timer count... the very second the time swicthed over I clicked every time and never got in.... appreantly you have to have the god amoungts gods of connections... I'm runnin a cable modem no lag at all during normal game play yet everytime cannot get in. And when I say all day I mean from about 12pm to 12am... literally at least... never got in one... about to not be allowed into them anymore b/c normal grinding is getting me higher than the KQ. Don't get me wrong I love this game it's great has the potential to be bigger than wow... but little things like this are killing it... I'm in the mindset that if I don't do at least one of these and get the rewards I'll be behind if I outlvl it and never get to go... I did these in closed beta and didn't have TOO much trouble getting in... 3rd or 4th one I'd normally get in... but in open it's impossible. Please at least work towards doing something.
lordleonhart
08-29-2007, 09:27 PM
SpazAttack ("/user/59317")
This is beta chief... we're supposed to point out flaws get over it... I'm sure everone posting here loves this game... they see a prob they announce it, b/c if they're like me they see this turning into something outstanding. Calm down there buddy.
Ghostdogg
08-29-2007, 11:26 PM
SpazAttack ("/user/59317")
This is beta chief... we're supposed to point out flaws get over it... I'm sure everone posting here loves this game... they see a prob they announce it, b/c if they're like me they see this turning into something outstanding. Calm down there buddy.
Love is a strong word...more like a mild affection...kind like how I feel about my favorite shorts....meh.
 
dogg~
lome1986
08-29-2007, 11:45 PM
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imported_marasgal
08-30-2007, 05:36 AM
Well I am going to make my self the Black sheep of the game by telling the Guarded secret of so many..
Here is a way to get you into KQ alot easier. its not 100% but it does give you a better chance.
Ok watch the game timer, see when the time changes and keep it tracked to the second. Now when its about 20 seconds away from the KQ opening up for Recruiting, press and HOLD the participate button, when the time changes for the KQ to open up, release it quickly. This gives you a split second more speed to enter the KQ.
Anyways, GL in getting in :)
BunnyHanyou
08-30-2007, 05:57 AM
[/url][url="http://www.fiestaonlinehq.com/"] ("/")Stop with the KQ sucks posts....How can it be impossible to get in when 15 ppl get in. CLICK FAST
-Spaz &gt;:(
o_O Spaz, dont be a fool. Of course its impossible to get in considering many of the people who do get in are using auto join bots, and considering that I've had people admit it to me isnt pleasing either. Im sure many of you have noticed that once &quot;recruiting&quot; comes up it fills up in about .1 seconds? Its impossible.
Anyway. Im sure Outspark will get around to that some day. For now, yeah we all know it sucks, no need to make more and more posts about it. :P.
TastyTapioca
08-30-2007, 06:34 AM
Unless devs make it so that players can enter a KQ only once in 2 hours.
Look : every 2 minutes there's a new KQ recruiting phase, but if you have participated a KQ 1 hour ago you can't enter this new one, cause you have to wait one more hour. I think this wouldn't be stupid.
That is a very good point to bring up in this. Restricting access to KQs in this manner would make it more feasible (sp) and keep the leveling in check I'd think.
Zues007
09-01-2007, 08:58 AM
I have never played in the Kingdome Quest but am trying to see what it is. I asum it is an instent with a small number of players. In this case I would recomend a privet waiting room. What I meen is this. If you whant to do a KQ you will be teleported to a waiting room untill the max number of partisipents is in. Then you will be given a popup that will ask you to conferm you are ready (this will have a 20sec timer) if not ready you will be kicked out back to world. After everyone has confermed then you all get teleported to the KQ. After you have joined the KQ you will not be alowd do to another one with that charictor for at least 12 hours.
Deedolith
09-01-2007, 09:25 AM
Your suggestion is nothing different than what we have now. A waiting room (or a buffer) isn't the solution as long as they pick the fastest people.
Zues007
09-01-2007, 03:01 PM
Im sorry I dont think you understand what I meen. The waiting room is automatic you can not be turnd down from it unless you already did a KQ within the last 12 hours. Every one in the waiting room will be garinteed a spot in the KQ when the room fills and from what you people are saying I dont think it would take long for the room to fill. Doing this would garintee that every one could play a KQ every 12 hours per charictor they have. So it would not matter how fast you are. Unless you where trying to get in with a particular friend then that mite be hard. I hope this is more clear as to what I ment.
bobbique
09-01-2007, 03:26 PM
I like the idea that everyone who wants to, would get a chance sometime during the day to get in. During CB I got in at least once a day and got some awsome equipment and experience. Also working with that big a group toward a goal gives you a great feeling when it is successful (I miss that). Another advantage was the amount of friends you get from them. Well anyway I will keep trying because its one of the major things that sets this game apart from all the others. Im sure if we keep talking about it they will do something. Thanks for listening :P
Xantess
09-01-2007, 03:32 PM
k it isnt wrong if you dont say it to annyone but i have a much bigger problem each time when im prsing at aprientice bottom the game says me that the kq isnt found what is this how can i get then in the kq anyone know thta ???
Drusciliana
09-01-2007, 03:36 PM
Entering KQ Method #2, by the Queen B-itch:
First you have to understand a little about the hardware. There is NO SUCH THING as synchronicity within a computer. It runs off of clock ticks. Without going into too much about it, this game (Like probably all of them) runs off of descriptor polling. It takes turns looking to see what each connection to the server is doing, and it does this very simply. It looks at the most RECENT login connection first then goes down the list. If person A and person B on opposite sides of the world have their keypress to enter hit the server at the exact same time, the computer doesn't see that, it sees what person A does, then what person B does, then C, etc. So, person A will -always- get in before anyone else. Nothing to do with faster clicking as some people have pointed out. Notice the people that scream the loudest about clicking faster are the ones that know these tricks, and will never tell you, but just berate you for complaining about this. If you know people on your friend's list who get in a lot, notice to see if they logout and back in right before the KQ starts. This means you must log out of the game fully, go all the way back to desktop, log back in, you want to get in the second before the bell goes off to sign up. Use this method along with marasgal's method and you might not get in every one of them, but you'll get into more than you're getting into now.
I too, agree the system needs some work, it needs to be open to everyone, but with a -4- hour lockout time on successful completion, and a -2- hour lockout on failures. Have a new one spawn every so often, maybe not 2 minutes, but that number is irrelevant. A lockout timer will prevent people from using it to power level if they have to wait 4 hours between finishing one and getting in another.
Just one girl's factual opinion,
Dru...
ernackalin
09-01-2007, 03:39 PM
how you have your kingdom quests setup is bad it is almost impossible to get into one of them, why u thought of having it like this i don't know but ohwell......
i dont know how to get it to the screen so i can play
XpierulesX
09-01-2007, 04:30 PM
1) Get out of Roumen
2) go to like forest of tides or where not much people are
3) open the hourglass
4) hold down participate until it says recruiting on the bottom left bar
5) when it says that release the participate
6) you should be in
Your Welcome
[P.S I have done this 2 times already and it has worked]
You can thank me by giving me 1s plzzz
~Fightingperson~
liffie
09-02-2007, 05:05 AM
**** me of these quests do the one person who got in cant go back in after 2 hours not fair. and where is the place in forest of tides?????
spanky
09-02-2007, 11:18 AM
my god how hard is it, to get into one kq's?
i've tired 10 times what's up with that?
TastyTapioca
09-02-2007, 11:33 AM
For those just joining us, here's a mental visual for you.
The KQ has room for 15 people per run. Maybe 5 runs per 2 hours or so.
Fiesta has some 200 or so people in the newbie areas at any given time. Around levels 5 to 16.
Now the majority of them want into the KQ. Even at 5x total you can only let 75 or so of those 200 people in.
What upsets me is seeing people enter the KQ and 3-4 minutes later, exit it and enter another one.
noellenc
09-02-2007, 11:41 AM
I have found a pretty good tactic to getting in. I've only failed to get in once in the past two days, but that's not my problem with KQ so much. My problem is that even once you are in KQ there is a BIG chance that you won't be able to complete the quest because not everyone gets credit! I've done 3 KQs now with the intent of killing the King and Queen slime for the 5-16 bracket, and I've only gotten credit for the King. Even when the Queen dies, I have not gotten the credit! Now I am 93% to 17 and I'm giving up because I'm sick of wasting time I could be leveling just to finish the quest line when even when I DO get in, I usually DONT get the kills. (It's mostly from bad players... you make a group for the king and queen credit and you either get a bad tank who makes it so everyone has to run away instead of get in damage for credit or your healer dies because the other group isn't holding down the ADDS)... *SIGH*
The idea of making sure that everyone has a chance every 2 hours is good, but not having KQ more frequently... bc it's infrequency is what makes it so special.
mikejaxer
09-02-2007, 02:22 PM
my idea:
get new servers or channels
y?
it lags in towns
players are everywhere and its hard to fight a monster if ur warrior.
impossible to get into kq
bugbug
09-03-2007, 04:56 AM
7.9.3
A. realize there are three tiers of quest within the kq instance, and only the third tier requires the king and queen slime killed.
lowbies (lvl 5 - 10) do not much stand a chance in the final area with those bosses hitting for 100s dmg, and if the lowby is lucky it will be a few levels before they can even equip the rare lvl 15 weapon reward.
B. my complaint is after completing the kq, the reward chest that are EMPTY !! Three times have gotten empty chest, other times it had a single blessed elrue, once a 25 mana earing and once three 250 hp heal potions (that instance had to use over 20 heal and 15 mana pots tanking the king and queen [AND STILL DID NOT GET CREDIT FOR KILLING nEITHER BOSS.])
C. finally level 15 to 16, one can easily hit lvl 17 and nolonger be elig for the kq, and still have NOT gotten the king and queen kill credits to complete the 3rd tier kq quest.
ps... hurry up and open the second server.
Bladetrix
09-03-2007, 11:19 AM
1. Keep KQ A-F but do it every hour.
2. You can only participate in a maximum of 2 KQ's a day.
3. Open the second Server.
4. Have them every 2 hours but add more... the list of possibilties is endless, but in the end, its up to them, not us. I ehard they will open the second server when the first becomes "full", atm its only been busy but i dont know. Anyways, KQ is hard to get into I agree, what I do is log out about a minute before it starts in a palce like sea of greed or burning hill away from other players. Then log back in and bring up the relevent KQ and click when it says recruiting, I usually get in.
ghost_arbiter
04-11-2008, 02:37 AM
i know how to get in every time, click on the participate buttom about a minute before recruiting but dont let go of the left mouse buttion, when it recruits quickly let go of the mouse button and your in