'All aco' boost?

[shiningkittenfur]

Latley ive seen ALOT of acos just sitten there not doing anything D:
so me and a few friends thought of an idea, how bout an all aco boost?
if a pt consist of 3 or more acos, and ONLY acos, the pt gets an extra boost~ like 30%- 50% becauz of our slow killing rate and burning pots :x.

i think this would be really good for the acos that cant find pts.. *cough* me *cough*.. and becauz alot of aoers ive seen lately are doing solo aoe. = tough competition between acos for pts. = more acos doing nothing...


it's just an idea, comments and suggestions are welcome ~:3

Other ideas posted:

1)Higher dmg, better buffs, use less mp per attack, so that acos can solo.
2)'undead' monsters, which heals do dmg to (major heal= clerics can aoe)
3)extra exp from healing (acos not being leeches x3)
4)more random drops (idk what this has to do with acos just sittin around but o well.)

[moon.bandit]

I like the idea of an aco boost however I feel more like acos should be allowed to attack higher (so we can solo). And anyways, other classes might start to complain if acos are allowed to get that extra boost when they can't.

[dj78x]

im a poor aco :'(

[shiningkittenfur]

I like the idea of an aco boost however I feel more like acos should be allowed to attack higher (so we can solo). And anyways, other classes might start to complain if acos are allowed to get that extra boost when they can't.

i see your point o.O .
however either way, acos whould b getting the same amount of exp as in a normal party. i thought this would be good for acos mainly becauz it gets rid of some of the random acos waiting around for a pt.
:/ but if we had a higher attack, id appreciate that 2 ~x3

[ashley88]

You should pm a GM or outspark, they might be able to fix that, and yes our attack rates are bad, but don't forget that all of our attacks slow down the monster, I think it makes it quite balanced. Though an increase in attack would be really nice~ I do agree on the part of the aco's and clerics just sitting around...

[hanako808]

Clerics and acos sitting around...waiting...waiting...waiting...*remembers lvl 47 days....* Q.Q...poor healers...We do need to tell a GM...stronger attacks...stronger heals...stronger buffs...but I highly doubt they'd do anything for that since healers are mostly support class....

[angel_hikaru]

Well Acolytes and Clerics were intended to be party dependent characters. I can see why you guys would want a increase in power and ability, but that would in a sense ruin the purpose of a healer wouldn't it? Think about it, if you had a lot of damage and speed, they wouldn't be what makes them special, a great support class.

What would be more beneficial to the environment and especially acolytes and clerics is that if they GMS would incorporate more maps, even quests (definitely), and bosses that incorporate teamwork. If a mob/monster/boss is difficult enough, acolytes and clerics would be a MUST as well as other classes and their support skills.

Of course one exploit would be a difference in level, what requires a team for per say 4x-6x, may easily be solo'd by a much higher level, 9x (saying numbers off the top of my head). So why not make special dungeons, instances (whatever you may call them), like the labyrinths that are level limited, but worthwhile?

Perhaps buffing a class may not be a great idea, go look at a disciple/templar.
Too much damage, decent disables and stuns, and a few healing spells. When i walk around town, i see way too many disciples. When many many people go one class i think it's unbalanced.

But think about it and discuss people!!!! :p

[hanako808]

Well Acolytes and Clerics were intended to be party dependent characters. I can see why you guys would want a increase in power and ability, but that would in a sense ruin the purpose of a healer wouldn't it? Think about it, if you had a lot of damage and speed, they wouldn't be what makes them special, a great support class.

What would be more beneficial to the environment and especially acolytes and clerics is that if they GMS would incorporate more maps, even quests (definitely), and bosses that incorporate teamwork. If a mob/monster/boss is difficult enough, acolytes and clerics would be a MUST as well as other classes and their support skills.

Of course one exploit would be a difference in level, what requires a team for per say 4x-6x, may easily be solo'd by a much higher level, 9x (saying numbers off the top of my head). So why not make special dungeons, instances (whatever you may call them), like the labyrinths that are level limited, but worthwhile?

Perhaps buffing a class may not be a great idea, go look at a disciple/templar.
Too much damage, decent disables and stuns, and a few healing spells. When i walk around town, i see way too many disciples. When many many people go one class i think it's unbalanced.

But think about it and discuss people!!!! :p

*read read read* Huh??? o.o??

[oareatiga]

Well Acolytes and Clerics were intended to be party dependent characters. I can see why you guys would want a increase in power and ability, but that would in a sense ruin the purpose of a healer wouldn't it? Think about it, if you had a lot of damage and speed, they wouldn't be what makes them special, a great support class.

What would be more beneficial to the environment and especially acolytes and clerics is that if they GMS would incorporate more maps, even quests (definitely), and bosses that incorporate teamwork. If a mob/monster/boss is difficult enough, acolytes and clerics would be a MUST as well as other classes and their support skills.

Of course one exploit would be a difference in level, what requires a team for per say 4x-6x, may easily be solo'd by a much higher level, 9x (saying numbers off the top of my head). So why not make special dungeons, instances (whatever you may call them), like the labyrinths that are level limited, but worthwhile?

Perhaps buffing a class may not be a great idea, go look at a disciple/templar.
Too much damage, decent disables and stuns, and a few healing spells. When i walk around town, i see way too many disciples. When many many people go one class i think it's unbalanced.

But think about it and discuss people!!!! :p


But wont the new ppl who join, hearing about this injustice to the support class, stay clear from such a class? Before we know it aco's will be rare

[bobalitos]

cutekitten why are you encouraging healers to not party ><

i told you i will get you to chantery parties when i see you =[

and woot im in the sig buwahaha

[angel_hikaru]

It's not because he doesn't want ACOs to party. It is the fact that they
can't find parties most of the time...

[oareatiga]

Um... I remember when I was an aco going thru the same problem, and me and a few other aco's just made our own party and grinded for hours on end.

It was kinda cool actually :p

[Propanol]

As the number of Acolytes and Cleriques has increased significantly, they might be getting less chance to find a party. To be optimistic, I guess that is also a part of life as an aco... lol

[QueenPixie]

As the number of Acolytes and Cleriques has increased significantly, they might be getting less chance to find a party. To be optimistic, I guess that is also a part of life as an aco... lol

He's right. Have you seen the number of clerics?!! We use to be the class that hardly had any.:p We use to be rare. Lol those were nice days xD But your idea is good =]

[shiningkittenfur]

o.o actually, ive heard some acos talk about special monsters like 'undead' that only our heal could dmg x333
that would b awesome o.O


cutekitten why are you encouraging healers to not party ><

i told you i will get you to chantery parties when i see you =[

and woot im in the sig buwahaha

It's not because he doesn't want ACOs to party. It is the fact that they
can't find parties most of the time...
Yep, what angel said ~xD
also (to angel) OMG SOMEONE FINALLY FIGURES OUT IM A BOY :O YAYNESS *squeal*

also thx for posting every1 ;3~ thoughts and ideas r always appreciated~

[moon.bandit]

Well Acolytes and Clerics were intended to be party dependent characters. I can see why you guys would want a increase in power and ability, but that would in a sense ruin the purpose of a healer wouldn't it? Think about it, if you had a lot of damage and speed, they wouldn't be what makes them special, a great support class.

What would be more beneficial to the environment and especially acolytes and clerics is that if they GMS would incorporate more maps, even quests (definitely), and bosses that incorporate teamwork. If a mob/monster/boss is difficult enough, acolytes and clerics would be a MUST as well as other classes and their support skills.

Of course one exploit would be a difference in level, what requires a team for per say 4x-6x, may easily be solo'd by a much higher level, 9x (saying numbers off the top of my head). So why not make special dungeons, instances (whatever you may call them), like the labyrinths that are level limited, but worthwhile?

Perhaps buffing a class may not be a great idea, go look at a disciple/templar.
Too much damage, decent disables and stuns, and a few healing spells. When i walk around town, i see way too many disciples. When many many people go one class i think it's unbalanced.

But think about it and discuss people!!!! :p

I think it is precisely the problem with acos finding a party that they decide to become a disciple, hence an increase in the amount of disciples in the game. Honestly speaking, if they didn't make disciples a branch of acolytes, then I would be frustrated. I can't stand partying all the time and I would prefer soloing. Being a disciple makes soloing much more easier compared to being an acolyte. (I'm not saying I hate partying, I enjoy it... but sometimes I would like to go at my own pace)

One thing about support classes is that when they party, they rarely get any good drops. That's what I find pretty frustrating, esp. when there's a xen that drops. Also I've noticed that when the party puts the item division as random, it's not really random. Whoever attacks the most/hardest and picks up the item more often tends to get items, although the options are set at random. So whenever I party, my aco never gets anything.

I like the dungeon idea however there are some people whose stats are messed up and their character aren't as well suited for a specific dungeon as the other people in their classes are at the same level. A party may help but some people would like the solo... unless if you plan to make the dungeon party only.

[angel_hikaru]

That is exactly what i mean, and i'm thinking/planning some way to present this case to the GMs.

You know there has to be a certain point where the games should focus more on team play rather individual effort aka. solo-ing. If people love to solo so much they should be playing a single player game rather multilayer much less an MMO I think. If anything this game lacks, it is the element of having a party and teamwork. Everything so far can be accomplished by yourself which may or may not be good depending on how you view it.

After saying all this... someone find me an AP 6 technical club to trade moi >.<

[dj78x]

but now with this monkey event i get all kinda goodys <3 lol

[shiningkittenfur]

One thing about support classes is that when they party, they rarely get any good drops. That's what I find pretty frustrating, esp. when there's a xen that drops. Also I've noticed that when the party puts the item division as random, it's not really random. Whoever attacks the most/hardest and picks up the item more often tends to get items, although the options are set at random. So whenever I party, my aco never gets anything.

lol ironically, the first time i went into the mines i was the one in my pt to get the RDB.
:/ i think drops are according to lvl, so i think u might be correct in that it isnt 'compleatly random'
That is exactly what i mean, and i'm thinking/planning some way to present this case to the GMs.

You know there has to be a certain point where the games should focus more on team play rather individual effort aka. solo-ing. If people love to solo so much they should be playing a single player game rather multilayer much less an MMO I think. If anything this game lacks, it is the element of having a party and teamwork. Everything so far can be accomplished by yourself which may or may not be good depending on how you view it.

After saying all this... someone find me an AP 6 technical club to trade moi >.<
1st paragraph:
YAY THX ANGELLLL :D

2nd paragraph:
hmm ur right with that, however there are times that soloing seems fun, chalenging yourself :3

3rd paragraph:
o.o... i remenber u pming me about how i could use a new club this morning..
not compleaty random, and it had ALOT to do with the rest of the paragraphs ~;3 (sarcasm ~x3)

but now with this monkey event i get all kinda goodys <3 lol
...... o.o lucky you, i didnt get anything >.<

[AnimePimp66]

awwww (looks at cutes siggy) ill always party with u D: the more healers the better i say !!! i once partyed with nothing but healers xD sooooooo attention all healers ill party u RAWR also mages and apps with lighting i need u 2 for my insaneness xD

[bobalitos]

i say take away the class change quest at 66 now buwahah!


its like a cleric quota-115!

[shiningkittenfur]

i say take away the class change quest at 66 now buwahah!


Eh? does that imply that you dont want any more clerics? D:<
*runs off to emo corner*

[moon.bandit]

lol ironically, the first time i went into the mines i was the one in my pt to get the RDB.
:/ i think drops are according to lvl, so i think u might be correct in that it isnt 'compleatly random'


Actually, from my recent partying, the drops are NOT according to level. I was either the highest or the lowest leveled person in the party and I barely got any drops. However because I'm quick at picking things up, I do take note on who receives the items more often. The people who get most of the drops are the people who deal most the damage and hit the hardest. I hope outspark actually makes it random if they ever choose to fix the problem. I want some of the drops too. ><

[AnimePimp66]

ive been in thousands of partys ranging from aoe to me being the lowest lv or me being the highest lv and sometimes ill get ubber drops sometimes i wont dunt worry randem is perfectly randem if u think an aco not getting drops is bad u nvr been in aoe where aoer get no drops from a big pile while the side killers/healer get all O_O

[Kairi13]

I Totally agree...i wish i noticed this was you earlier Kitten ^^ ...wait
.... how come im not in the picture T.T XD lolz.

[WhiteTiger_024]

I Totally agree...i wish i noticed this was you earlier Kitten ^^

ditto.....^^

[moon.bandit]

ive been in thousands of partys ranging from aoe to me being the lowest lv or me being the highest lv and sometimes ill get ubber drops sometimes i wont dunt worry randem is perfectly randem if u think an aco not getting drops is bad u nvr been in aoe where aoer get no drops from a big pile while the side killers/healer get all O_O

Serious? Aco's get all in aoe? O.o Well, that's still not random. XD

[AnimePimp66]

O_O did u read what u quoted

[moon.bandit]

Well you said "dunt worry randem is perfectly randem". Maybe I'm misreading it or something but I translated it as you saying that the whole system IS random.

[atanihotaru]

Here's a suggestion
Instead of 'an aco boost' (it might make acolytes just tend to party with other acolytes) how about giving exp to acolytes for healing? It doesnt have to be much exp, but I think it be good to see acolytes getting exp for healing party members or just random players.

[QueenPixie]

Here's a suggestion
Instead of 'an aco boost' (it might make acolytes just tend to party with other acolytes) how about giving exp to acolytes for healing? It doesnt have to be much exp, but I think it be good to see acolytes getting exp for healing party members or just random players.

Goodness what planet are you from? Do you know what that will do! That will unbalanced....ugh that's a bad idea. Acolytes getting exp from healing that has already been suggested and is still by far the worse idea. I mean can you imagine the acolytes just standing around and using minor heal on a random person just to gain exp. Now is that any way to level up?

[ashley88]

Goodness what planet are you from? Do you know what that will do! That will unbalanced....ugh that's a bad idea. Acolytes getting exp from healing that has already been suggested and is still by far the worse idea. I mean can you imagine the acolytes just standing around and using minor heal on a random person just to gain exp. Now is that any way to level up?

=x=;; She's right atanihotaru. I mean just spam heal and you lvl up? I don't think so...Just. People stop complaining. Just work HARD. Okay?

[WhiteTiger_024]

in my parties, im always the one to get the xen n its annoyin when people say 'i was doin all the work, can i have the xen' geez people dont be greedy, we acos work too u know. >.>

[atanihotaru]

Originally Posted by atanihotaru
Here's a suggestion
Instead of 'an aco boost' (it might make acolytes just tend to party with other acolytes) how about giving exp to acolytes for healing? It doesnt have to be much exp, but I think it be good to see acolytes getting exp for healing party members or just random players.


Goodness what planet are you from? Do you know what that will do! That will unbalanced....ugh that's a bad idea. Acolytes getting exp from healing that has already been suggested and is still by far the worse idea. I mean can you imagine the acolytes just standing around and using minor heal on a random person just to gain exp. Now is that any way to level up?

sorry maybe I didnt make myself clear =S my bad.

heal = get a tiny bit of exp but nowhere near as much as one would get from slaying a monster @_@ ridiculous of course.
Furthermore it should be a decent heal (meaning it has to actually give hp back to the person they healed not just healing because of the exp) that way an acolyte can't abuse going around spamming heal around.

Again im sorry for the confusion =P

[ashley88]

Originally Posted by atanihotaru
Here's a suggestion
Instead of 'an aco boost' (it might make acolytes just tend to party with other acolytes) how about giving exp to acolytes for healing? It doesnt have to be much exp, but I think it be good to see acolytes getting exp for healing party members or just random players.



sorry maybe I didnt make myself clear =S my bad.

heal = get a tiny bit of exp but nowhere near as much as one would get from slaying a monster @_@ ridiculous of course.
Furthermore it should be a decent heal (meaning it has to actually give hp back to the person they healed not just healing because of the exp) that way an acolyte can't abuse going around spamming heal around.

Again im sorry for the confusion =P

Then let me tell you what I think. You would still abuse the power, just get hit then heal, get hit then heal. Seriously you could keep that up and gain your lvl. Also, did you know that higher lvls barely even get 0.01 for 1 mob? They even get less than that. So to the priests we have now, they could get hit and heal get hit and heal. And would gain more exp then slaying a mob. Seriously, oh and did you know, healer's can solo too. Including me. I could go grab a mob and keep healing myself. Wow, what a way to earn exp.

[Deviot_Aviot]

Rawr...increase aco attacks? fine.
if that gets implemented, i'm gonna ask for an Mage self healing skill xDD

[oareatiga]

in my parties, im always the one to get the xen n its annoyin when people say 'i was doin all the work, can i have the xen' geez people dont be greedy, we acos work too u know. >.>


Awwwwww =(, is someone giving you a hard time lil' pichon? Tell big brother and I'll PVP them!!! BUAHAHAHAHAHA. But its true, you always get the Xen stones -grumble-

[QueenPixie]

Rawr...increase aco attacks? fine.
if that gets implemented, i'm gonna ask for an Mage self healing skill xDD

NOOOO =P seee what you created!? Now every class wants special treatment...jk mages are kewl :D And ya we can solo just slow and takes forever T.T and spamming pots for like 0.06% and a few mins of insanity.

[oareatiga]

NOOOO =P seee what you created!? Now every class wants special treatment...jk mages are kewl :D And ya we can solo just slow and takes forever T.T and spamming pots for like 0.06% and a few mins of insanity.

So true :p As a disciple I spam 350 mp pots in a matter of minutes... This Disciple is now poor :mad: I guess I could sell that last Xen stone I have :p
Maybe instead of more powerful attacks how about more attack skills at earlier lvls? Apps have that icey attack that causes dmg plus Mindbuster. Acos can have a type of spirit that also causes dmg

[moon.bandit]

Rawr...increase aco attacks? fine.
if that gets implemented, i'm gonna ask for an Mage self healing skill xDD

When I suggested that aco attacks should be increased, I didn't mean for it to increase so much that it's comparable to the attacks of an apprentice. It's hard for acos to solo in a decent place because our attacks are low. Even if we can solo, we'd barely have any MP left to heal ourselves when we get attacked unless we use a MP pot.

Originally Posted by atanihotaru
Here's a suggestion
Instead of 'an aco boost' (it might make acolytes just tend to party with other acolytes) how about giving exp to acolytes for healing? It doesnt have to be much exp, but I think it be good to see acolytes getting exp for healing party members or just random players.



sorry maybe I didnt make myself clear =S my bad.

heal = get a tiny bit of exp but nowhere near as much as one would get from slaying a monster @_@ ridiculous of course.
Furthermore it should be a decent heal (meaning it has to actually give hp back to the person they healed not just healing because of the exp) that way an acolyte can't abuse going around spamming heal around.

Again im sorry for the confusion =P

Well, here's the problem - if, somehow, this does become implemented: how much EXP will the acolyte get for healing somebody? Will it decrease in the amount of EXP they get when they level up? Also, some acolytes might as well just spam their skill healing people in their party/other people just to get that EXP from healing - even though some people don't need to be healed (basically what others have said).

[Kairi13]

Im bored again today maybe i should just work on my squire >.>

[oareatiga]

HHHEEEYYY!!! its Himeko, whats up! It's Omar-kun... I mean, BORICUA :p

Good idea, I think I'll hit my other characters. Maybe my scout or work on my second Aco more (will go Cleric this time) :D

[sassy326]

I know quite a few of the other clerics and priests have done this when they couldn't find a party. Make up an all healer party. I remember seeing them in Rudwork, the mines and everywhere else across Xen.

[oareatiga]

YEEESSSS!

That's what i posted previously, thank you (no sarcasm)
I myself used to do it on my younger days as an aco... have a group from 4 to 6 aco's and grind the maps :D

[sassy326]

It's fun and it sometimes throws off some other parties when the see a whole group of healers out killing. LOL and I know that there's been screenies taken of some old all healer parties.

[QueenPixie]

Umm what's this thread about again? o.O LOL all you guys going off topic here. Suggesting the healer party is nice thought but it gets old after a while ~.~ What happen to the person who made this thread :confused:Plus If you wanted stronger hits from illusion quake just buy or find yourself a really nice cane:p but boost would be nice even though I don't play anymore haha xDD

[WhiteTiger_024]

YEEESSSS!

That's what i posted previously, thank you (no sarcasm)
I myself used to do it on my younger days as an aco... have a group from 4 to 6 aco's and grind the maps :D

huh younger days.... r u suggestin ur old O.o

[oareatiga]

huh younger days.... r u suggestin ur old O.o


I sure am... but I age like a fine wine ma'... ^^
dont tell everyone my age... I'll have to submit a photo in the forum to show how young I really look :p

[WhiteTiger_024]

I sure am... but I age like a fine wine ma'... ^^
dont tell everyone my age... I'll have to submit a photo in the forum to show how young I really look :p

WHERE @@ >.> <.<

[oareatiga]

in the forum, theres a thread with players' pics

[WhiteTiger_024]

in the forum, theres a thread with players' pics

u know u coulda just pmed me right T.T

[Kairi13]

u know u coulda just pmed me right T.T

lol poor you he picks on you alot doesnt he? :rolleyes: :eek: :p

[WhiteTiger_024]

lol poor you he picks on you alot doesnt he? :rolleyes: :eek: :p

yea n i wish i could do this to him (o>.<)----O)X.x)~~

[oareatiga]

yea n i wish i could do this to him (o>.<)----O)X.x)~~

but you can't lil pichon BUAHAHAHAHAHA!!

Himeko... want me to pick on you too? :p...Nah, you cool, I wont do it... or will I?? :p

[Kairi13]

but you can't lil pichon BUAHAHAHAHAHA!!

Himeko... want me to pick on you too? :p...Nah, you cool, I wont do it... or will I?? :p

O.O
....
everyone run XP

[oareatiga]

O.O
....
everyone run XP

RUN MY PUPPETS... RUUUUN!


But serious now, I noticed that a lot of aco's have been partying together recently. How about giving those groups an extra boost.

[Kairi13]

RUN MY PUPPETS... RUUUUN!


But serious now, I noticed that a lot of aco's have been partying together recently. How about giving those groups an extra boost.


Yeah acos have been partying together alot lately and also....puppet im a puppet nu uh i like to control the puppets ^^

[Beatnic_Jett]

Latley ive seen ALOT of acos just sitten there not doing anything D:
so me and a few friends thought of an idea, how bout an all aco boost?
if a pt consist of 3 or more acos, and ONLY acos, the pt gets an extra boost~ like 30%- 50% becauz of our slow killing rate and burning pots :x.

i think this would be really good for the acos that cant find pts.. *cough* me *cough*.. and becauz alot of aoers ive seen lately are doing solo aoe. = tough competition between acos for pts. = more acos doing nothing...


it's just an idea, comments and suggestions are welcome ~:3


If your having a hard time go disp
solo
and healing
you went with a aco
DONT WINE
>,>
not tryng to be harsh
this is just pointless

[Convent]

o 3o Not sure if this is a severely late post or not. >.<; If this is, just disregard it or something. ^^;

I don't think acos should get a boost for mass partying. Yes, aco life is tough. It's freakin' tough like--...anyway, it wouldn't necessarily balance classes if you take two imbalances against eachother (exp boost against ability to solo). I think beefing up Illusion quake some would do the trick, so that soloing becomes easier.

Acos can level pretty well on parties, though. It's ironic that, of all the parties I've seen, parties always seem to be short on acos and (when I was acoing hard) acos seem to always need parties. .__. I wonder what's going on here...

[Zenco]

i dont have a hard time finding kron for pots, i solo in were you can kill the monsters and the drops give ok amount of kron, i get about 20-40k of kron, but thats cause i sell all the armors and books to the stores, but i keep all aco books i find cause i like giving them away to lower lv acos so they dont have to work to hard for them

[Beatnic_Jett]

>,>
i get 500-600kron
and um
i have just about 3 mil as a aco
>,>
i spend about maybe 500K aday with maybe 1 lvl or 2
><
dont wine

[diedwithoutasoul]

Angelu must have been a horible aco T.T how can you say that T.T
Its not fair to us acos that well everybody else can solo we can't and are forced to join a party or else slowly lvl. And im sick of plpl asking me for a buff
ESPECAILLY DISPLES! >< THEY chose disp. so they shouldn't ask for more buffs when they alredy have some. They should also give acos an attack AOE
Disples get 3 AOES Two attack aoes and one heal aoe(though not as good as an aco)
and whats worse is that i get called rude names when i don't buff someone or revive them T.T
Disiples should agree that acos should get an exp because they were acos once to and know how hard it is to lvl T.T

Anyways if u see me on the game whispers me and i might help u out ^^

[tomcat47]

ok sammie i totally dont get you...at all. xD
you say you hate ppl asking for buffs...but you just told ppl to pm you if they need your help. o.o buffing is helping ppl...so i dont get it.

and you chose to be an aco. not a disc. so dont get mad at ppl for asking for buffs when youre the only one who can give them. ppl need you. be proud of it? dont whine about all the things acos dont have when you are choosing to stay aco. :/
idk if i agree about giving acos an attack aoe either. acos are a support and healing class. if acoes had attack aoes then no one would need acos and there would be less partying and everyone would just solo. x_x why dont we just combine every class and have everything yeah! -.- oh and about the rude names...i guess you just come across idiots. xD sorry.

[Beatnic_Jett]

>,>
well disps cant buff you
and when i turn
ill give anyone a healing tick if they ask nicly unlike they ask acos
but anywhooo
just go to a higher lvl map and power lvl
youll get good exp

[diedwithoutasoul]

Tomcat47 stop dissing all my posts T.T ur pissing me off T.T and i don't want acos to have a huge aoe just a small one when we get mobbed in belterain or something T.T

and as for the buffing T.T im staying cleric cause i luv the preisty outfit but hate the paladin outfit.

Tomcat47 I will find u and u will pay! ><

And why am i not on the distugised(sp?) road yet >< i don't want to be unfamous >< ARRGGGGG

[Beatnic_Jett]

cause this crap your posting people are giving you bad rep

[zoey_950210]

wel im an aco and i like to solo cause its is hard to heal more than 3 people at a time

[Beatnic_Jett]

you should go disp then if you like to solo

[diedwithoutasoul]

Acos can solo to it just takes longer....but u can also die easier as a disple because u can only use assist heal

[zoey_950210]

dude your rude you big headed freak show, small insect.

[zoey_950210]

i know it takes longer to solo but it is more easier cause you dont have to worry about healing another person and you also di more quickly when parting

[Kairi13]

Its a game...stop worrying about it so much and get to kno people and party O.o

[Starrchild72]

And im sick of plpl asking me for a buff
ESPECAILLY DISPLES! >< THEY chose disp. so they shouldn't ask for more buffs when they alredy have some.
Disiples should agree that acos should get an exp because they were acos once to and know how hard it is to lvl T.T


I don't understand acos like you? I had a conversation with a few in game that seem to feel the way you do, which I died a lot because of them, they didn't want to heal or buff me because I have heal assist and my own buffs but they would keep on me to give them the erousia buff. While I was an aco I used to walk thru fields giving out random buffs and heals just cause I could do that and I am sorry if that has made it so that some peeps think that it should always be that way when some don't want to give them out at all or want to make players beg to get healed or buffed.

I don't think a boost for exp cause your an aco is a good idea because it can unbalance things very badly but making illusion quake a bit stronger that I do agree with and it can be hard to lvl any of the classes so acos aren't alone in the hard lvling.

Starr

[diedwithoutasoul]

I agree with person above whose name escapes me.....yes anyway it does seem kinda unfair ( I AM AN ACO don't call me classist[class rascist]) that we should get an exp boost for an all aco party but i think it would be better to get an exp boost for healing considering we do that alot more( Mmmmm yes i am greedy for exp :D) ^^ good idea person whose name scapes me *pats him/her on back*

[tazsbigtoy]

Well, buffing, healing, and reviving people are what we do. I generally do buff and heal people who ask unless my party is in need, then my precious mp is reserved for them. I also buff people who don't ask for it, especially friends, or people is see helping out others, such as clearing a safe zone or pulling a mob off someone running. I usually make a point of buffing scouts and disciples as those two classes tend to be the ones who come to my rescue if I get mobbed. I do get irritated at people who run up and demand buffs while I'm in an aoe party and we are killing. I am usually the only healer and need to pay attention to what's going on. I have lots of templar/disciple friends and combining my buffs with theirs general mean they can aoe a couple of maps higher which helps us all. Although I understand our attack skills are meant to be defensive, I wish they were stronger. I also wish we has another aoe skill, perhaps a group buff, or major meditation.

[zoey_950210]

for me i run out of mp potions and mana realy quick in party cause of having more than 2or 3 people in party

[diedwithoutasoul]

Well, buffing, healing, and reviving people are what we do. I generally do buff and heal people who ask unless my party is in need, then my precious mp is reserved for them. I also buff people who don't ask for it, especially friends, or people is see helping out others, such as clearing a safe zone or pulling a mob off someone running. I usually make a point of buffing scouts and disciples as those two classes tend to be the ones who come to my rescue if I get mobbed. I do get irritated at people who run up and demand buffs while I'm in an aoe party and we are killing. I am usually the only healer and need to pay attention to what's going on. I have lots of templar/disciple friends and combining my buffs with theirs general mean they can aoe a couple of maps higher which helps us all. Although I understand our attack skills are meant to be defensive, I wish they were stronger. I also wish we has another aoe skill, perhaps a group buff, or major meditation.

A group buff would be such a good idea....that way i don't have to spend forever buffing plpl and acidently let someone die ^^

[tomcat47]

Tomcat47 stop dissing all my posts T.T ur pissing me off T.T and i don't want acos to have a huge aoe just a small one when we get mobbed in belterain or something T.T

and as for the buffing T.T im staying cleric cause i luv the preisty outfit but hate the paladin outfit.

Tomcat47 I will find u and u will pay! ><

And why am i not on the distugised(sp?) road yet >< i don't want to be unfamous >< ARRGGGGG

O__________________O
i wasnt dissing your posts...just disagreeing. =]
if you are staying cleric just for the outfit...well...idk what to say. i mean, im not gonna lie youre different then most acos. ppl are used to acos being nice and giving out buffs all the time, because ppl need you. you cant get mad when ppl see youre an aco and ask for buffs...most ppl would gladly help the person out and buff them. no one knows you dont like buffing. maybe use yellow eggs to shout everyday you hate buffing ppl and then everyone will know its pointless to ask you. :/

honestly...go disp if you hate the cleric path so much. it would save you a lot of stress/frustration. xD

and come find me. ^_^ my main is .Riku. so feel free to say hi. i wont be online til tomorrow night though. ill be in alicia or eir or just around essene and summerhill. =] im not exactly afraid...its not like you can hurt me lol. ill gladly take a buff though. xP

[Beatnic_Jett]

this girl is making me mad every where i look shes trying to be a smart ***
anyone see this>,>
aanywhoo
everyone has to work hard for exp
and i think acos have it easy thay heal a bit and they leech
tankers and apps/mages have to fight
everyone has pros and cons
the way you use them is what makes you a good fight/healer
dont complain
you went that rode if you dont like it
go disp
and if i have to hear form that girl one more time
about how stupid disp are ima bemad

[Muchiko]

this girl is making me mad every where i look shes trying to be a smart ***
anyone see this>,>
aanywhoo
everyone has to work hard for exp
and i think acos have it easy thay heal a bit and they leech
tankers and apps/mages have to fight
everyone has pros and cons
the way you use them is what makes you a good fight/healer
dont complain
you went that rode if you dont like it
go disp
and if i have to hear form that girl one more time
about how stupid disp are ima bemad

LOL ... Are you joking me?
Do you know how hard it is to keep a party alive and buffed?

[Beatnic_Jett]

>,>
yeah i do ima aco going disp thank you

[raemrazr]

We work as hard as our party can cooperate. Try keeping up with a full party as the only acolyte where the party demands both buffs and runs far ahead as soon as you buff them, expecting that you'll live, catch up, and heal them when they die in 2 or 3 hits even though you're still going down the list of the other 7 people needing a buff. :P

[Kairi13]

this girl is making me mad every where i look shes trying to be a smart ***
anyone see this>,>
aanywhoo
everyone has to work hard for exp
and i think acos have it easy thay heal a bit and they leech
tankers and apps/mages have to fight
everyone has pros and cons
the way you use them is what makes you a good fight/healer
dont complain
you went that rode if you dont like it
go disp
and if i have to hear form that girl one more time
about how stupid disp are ima bemad

call acos a leech again >.> and ill see you in pvp man i am not a leech i help fight when im not healing you kno in a duo i use 100mp for 1.5% or less and im not complaining cause i dont care but im not a leech -.-

[shiningkittenfur]

aggreed with above ~:3

[zoey_950210]

i agree for me i can a=carry 125 mana potion and having to buff and heal more
then 2 or more people is a pain in the butt and it also gets quite stressfull.
P.S. im not a very good speller

[opensunflowers]

Ahem.
To go along with the "killer heal" post...they SHOULD make undead maps. Every other game has them. Talk about an awesome place for healers. That should make killing easier for aco's, right??

Using heal as an attack?
:x?

[Kairi13]

Ahem.
To go along with the "killer heal" post...they SHOULD make undead maps. Every other game has them. Talk about an awesome place for healers. That should make killing easier for aco's, right??

Using heal as an attack?
:x?

even though thats like the best idea ever theres no way theyd do it youd have to riot or something >.>

[shiningkittenfur]

'undead' monsters would b awesome :D but i dont think outspark would do it :/


personally, id take anything so long that acos dont have to rely completely on aoers/pts



.. as for acos leeching, i find that the acos have to work the hardest D:
mages+other ranged can sorta slack off in a large pt, but the acos have to work a lot harder, and the mp use is rediculous~ were like mages without the attack >.>
acos are almost always blamed when the ppls die too~

[Farashimisanoob]

Ugh, this is just like the whining clerics in Fiesta.
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s156/KoolKidsKlub93/Whambulance.gif

[opensunflowers]

Then why are you here?

And yeah. I have an aco, who I want to get to cleric, but I'm not so sure anymore, Lol.

It's always,
BUFF ME!
ILLUSION QUAKE TO GET THE EXP BOOST!
HEAL ME!
HEAL ME!
PICK UP ITEM!
WHY DIDNT YOU USE ILLUSION QUAKE?
BUFF ME AGAIN (even though the buff is only half over)
GET ITEM!
HEAL HEAL HEAL ***UX ARE YOU DOING!


-_____-

Wheras every other class is just
ATTACK
ATTACK
ATTACK
MP POT SPAM
ATTACK
etc.

[vanyacellest]

Then why are you here?

And yeah. I have an aco, who I want to get to cleric, but I'm not so sure anymore, Lol.

It's always,
BUFF ME!
ILLUSION QUAKE TO GET THE EXP BOOST!
HEAL ME!
HEAL ME!
PICK UP ITEM!
WHY DIDNT YOU USE ILLUSION QUAKE?
BUFF ME AGAIN (even though the buff is only half over)
GET ITEM!
HEAL HEAL HEAL ***UX ARE YOU DOING!


-_____-

Wheras every other class is just
ATTACK
ATTACK
ATTACK
MP POT SPAM
ATTACK
etc.

OMG lol this post is sooo true! i have a neo too for when i get sick of demanding party members. Aco is the class where u have to pay THE most attention. Between buffing, healing, watching for aggro, pot spamming and chasing party members u don't have any time to take breaks like other classes.

That said, i LOVE being a cleric.

Also, acolyte/cleric is NOT a leech class. I hate people who say that. They can rot. we work hard. >:o

[Tatsumiko]

aco is somewhat even with app/mage in the pot spamming department

we use 45 mp for both bless and fist up lv 3
and with full pt its...45X8 = 360 mp per buff session
minor heal cost 19 at lv 4 (which i rarely use anyway XP)

besides other class can divert their attention from the pt for a while cuz we healer can just heal them. but we can't or everyone dies ><

[vyronf2]

I really like the instance idea, i play WoW and it has to be one of the BEST things in that game. it could have a level restriction, maybe even like GW or WoW where when a party is on the map, they are the only one there, maybe to much for a game like this, i don't know what its running. but the idea is a great one. it always helps to get people partys, when people are looking to make one.

[ashley88]

Also, acolyte/cleric is NOT a leech class. I hate people who say that. They can rot. we work hard. >:o

Hmm...even though you say that, it is true for some aco/clerics...I've seen it with my two bare eyes @.@ and I'm a healer >w>;;

[moon.bandit]

Acos are leechers? Are you kidding me? Acos work hard too! We deserve the EXP we get from partying with everybody. We HEAL AND BUFF people. If we weren't acos, we would be fighting there instead of healing and buffing people - but then you guys would start complaining about needing an aco. Also, acos attack at times too. Whatever you say, acos do NOT leech.

I agree with a lot of people here. Acos have to pay attention the most. When I grind on my neo, I'm usually chatting with others and/or reading while I'm grinding (multitasking ftw!), esp. if I'm in a party. However, being an aco in a party... I have to stare at the screen the whole time while I'm partying for fear of somebody dying and yelling at me. Doesn't help when the person you need to heal is far from you and then everybody else all of a sudden needs to be healed too.

[bobalitos]

ACOS ARE TOTALLY LEECHES


xD

that is why im cleric! i NEVER FIGHT AND I GET EXP..
how great is that.. all i do is heal and buff ppls.

[moon.bandit]

uh huh... acos shouldn't get EXP in a party for healing and buffing people? Healing and buffing takes skill. If you don't want an aco to "leech" in your party, just have the aco attack instead of heal. You wouldn't call that leeching, would you? Anyways, I'm pretty sure that if an aco wasn't there then you would spend a lot of money on HP pots or a lot of time sitting. With an aco, the party's time spent healing HP and HP pot spamming is reduced giving more time to kill more monsters earning your party and you more EXP. Also parties sometimes need an aco for the EXP boost too. So basically acos are giving a party more EXP.

[shiningkittenfur]

about the leeching acos...

imagine aoers without acos >.> half of them would take 10-12 dmg per monster
ever forget to buff an aoer? notice what happens? >.>
yea... acos arnt leeches >.>

[Deviot_Aviot]

Wow, who's the idiot that said Acos are leeches? o.o
In every mmorpg, there isn't a single class who could get exp by not working hard or doing their bit for the community... acos are supporters, they give buff, heals and rez...if u think being an aco is easy, you be one!

[zoey_950210]

i got to agree with most of ya but i have an aco and i decline people invites to party cause it is hard to keep them and i healed at the same time and buffing them and my self at the same time which uses up alot of mana and mp poitons:cool:

[Kairi13]

about the leeching acos...

imagine aoers without acos >.> half of them would take 10-12 dmg per monster
ever forget to buff an aoer? notice what happens? >.>
yea... acos arnt leeches >.>

muahaha we are awesome arent we >:D

[h.blitzkreig]

Well I like the idea considering the fact that my solo adventures havent went well lately, but its rare to find a party of acolytes without a single close range fighter like a neophyte but if u can find a party full of acolytes ask me to join a boost would benefit us all:)

[Kairi13]

lol yeah we had a cleric party today me and bria were in it :D lol its was 6 full clerics :D would have been 7 with you D: T.T

[h.blitzkreig]

Why do I miss everythring good as an acolyte!!!

[Kairi13]

you mean are party o.o?

[just_to_play]

T.t~! Waahhhh <.<

[Kairi13]

T.t~! Waahhhh <.<

whats with the crying star o.O??

[just_to_play]

whats with the crying star o.O??

you guys lucky you can be a cleric party <.< -not cleric yet- (probably wont ever be at this rate) >.>

[Kairi13]

it was djs fault he has a thing for snuggly clerics just wait till your one o.o

[diedwithoutasoul]

So soon T.T so soon will i be able to spread my cleric luv to the world and join a cleric party....but for now i will be an optomistic lvl 63 aco! :D

[Kairi13]

*sighs* sorry to say i read my reps so i seen that and to clarify dj thinks clerics are cute which is why he has lots of screenies of him and other clerics *cough* he thinks hes an adorable puppy which he is ^^

[h.blitzkreig]

you guys lucky you can be a cleric party <.< -not cleric yet- (probably wont ever be at this rate) >.>

But Im not a cleric yet but I party with them (srry to go off subject)

[Kairi13]

yeah thats ok lol dj wanted a cleric party so we could travel the maps looking cute it was a funny idea and we did have fun =]