View Full Version : Enhancing Sucks!!!!!!!!
GarredHATES
07-29-2008, 02:59 PM
ENHANCING ****ING SUCKS THERE SHOULDNT BE A ****ING CHANCE TO FAIL EVEN WITH EYES AND MILES IT STILL FAILS I WASTED 10 ****ING DOLLARS OUTSPARK NEEDS TO MAKE THIS **** BETTER BECAUSE IM GETTING ****IGN SICK AND TIRED OF WASTING MY TIME AND MONEY FOR NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad: :mad::mad:
tarry_kunal
07-29-2008, 03:11 PM
if its really doesnt work then dont bother wasting ur money and time enhancing, its as simple as that
Pure_Hate
07-29-2008, 03:11 PM
ROLF!
Look, if nobody forced you to buy SC stuff to enhance your weapon, and did this on your own free will, then... STOP COMPLAINING! ITS WRITTEN IN THE ITEM DESCRIPTION! REDS DECREASES BREAK RATE %100! AND BLUES DECREASE LEVEL DEGRADATION %100! NOTHING SAID ABOUT 100% SUCCESS THERE! IS THERE?! IS THERE?! IS THERE?!
Celtic_Princess
07-29-2008, 05:04 PM
Eventually when Gold Nines are released they will increase the rate of success. If you dislike the enhancing process as is I'd suggest buying your weapon already enhanced. Finding an enhancer is an option, but its not recommended as its easy to be scammed by someone and you won't get your green back. The process of having someone enhance for you is generally discouraged by the outspark staff.
ahtai
07-29-2008, 10:29 PM
Enhancing need a lot of patience. I find it works better spread the enhancement in days other than do from 0 to 9 in one sitting. The fail rate seem to increase in one sitting.
allyyCORE
07-29-2008, 10:34 PM
Enhancing on an average is about $50 spent.
$10 wasn't going to cut it to begin with... and of course, I'm talking about t3 enhancing.
I do a few enhances for deserving people...
...Make sure that the people who enhance for you at least have the "Enhancement God" title... you're half way in knowing if that person's gonna scam you or not.
chester17
08-04-2008, 01:09 AM
For T1 item, u can simply risk without using any eye till +6
Don't take the risk after +6, cos it not easy to get to +7
(I wasted 1 stack of red/blue but till cannot get to +7)
For level 2 item, you will need to use eye, even if u fail 1 time, the item might be destroy, unlike level 1 item, u can fail many time before item break.
It is not easy.
On average u need to use 1 stack of eye (red and blue) to get up 3 level, if u lucky u might get to 4 or even 5.
From my experience is about 3 time enhance, u will success 1 time (On average)
But u may get lucky sometime and success like 2-3 time in a row (quite rare) only happen to me once.
From +1 to +6 is much easier than +7 to +9
I only do my wep until +6. From my friend who enhance to +9, he mention u need 1 stack for 1 level, on average. Meaning 10 pair of eyes, 10 xir to get up 1 level
maybe if u lucky agian, u may get up 2 level
SOme if u not prepare to spend money, dun enhance. or if u are game cash rich, buy ready made wep, spend mroe and save ur REAL CASH.
i spend like close to $100 to enhance 3 character (5 items) to +6 and 1 armor to +3
For level 3 item, had not try yet. but i think will be very difficult also
and somemore the elure for T3 is going to cost u at least 10s each already, if u not rich, dun enhance.
+6 is good enough, all my char using +6
Advise use Blessed stone, and ur wep will look nicer with the red line circling.
If u dun use stone, ITEM SPOILER title will be yours soonz
lol
chester17
08-04-2008, 01:13 AM
from my personal experience also
for level 1 item, enhance in roumen is much easier than in eldy, lol
i dunno why
but my success rate is higher in roumen (all my level 1 item are enhance in roumen to +6)
for lvl 2 anywhere also the same
sometime u quit enhance and u come back again, u get lucky, and easier to success
gregysuper
08-04-2008, 01:29 AM
ENHANCING ****ING SUCKS THERE SHOULDNT BE A ****ING CHANCE TO FAIL EVEN WITH EYES AND MILES IT STILL FAILS I WASTED 10 ****ING DOLLARS OUTSPARK NEEDS TO MAKE THIS **** BETTER BECAUSE IM GETTING ****IGN SICK AND TIRED OF WASTING MY TIME AND MONEY FOR NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad: :mad::mad:
I think its too much real life money that you need to spend, so I wont bother enchanting...
Yeah to make a weapon +9 you spend at least 30$ ...
You could buy a new PC game with that.
Or maybe a PSP game...
Why waste so much money on a game just to have high damage?
Make in game money, and go buy weapobs +9 for 1g + :mad:
yourmojo
08-04-2008, 06:17 AM
Enhancing in all MMOs is the biggest scam there is. Despite the fact that we are not required to enhance, it's still extremely expensive and risky to upgrade past level 40. A full +9 set can cost a ridiculous amount of money. With fiesta, we pay by the month, essentially. Pretty well all the items have to be bought again and again after 30 days. Which is why I always thought enhancing was pretty unfair. If we are already paying $35+ per month for things that we basically* need, then why make us pay another $25 just to upgrade our weapons, which we basically need?
* I say basically, because in order to train effectively we have to use the cash shop. If we don't have +9 weapons, exp enhancers, HP extenders, then we end up taking a whole lot longer to level up. Well, guess what, the longer we take to level up, the more money we spend on the cash shop every month. Longer times active in game means more people on the server, means more money for them.
The thing most people don't realize is that free MMOs are warped and manipulated versions of a game...Designed specifically to suck money out of it's users. Monsters are made with higher physical defense so you will "want" to buy enhanced gear to deal more damage. Monsters hit hard so you will "want" to buy HP + SP extenders. EXP sucks so that you "want" to buy 20% exp enhancers. And yes, armor looks terrible at certain levels so you "want" to buy cash shop sets (believe it or not). When enhancing, you'll get a ton of fails, and then a random success. Just enough for you to get a few more fails. After that, you'll be tempted, you'll "want" to buy more upgrade material for a few more fails and a random success. Stones expensive? Offer enhancing services to get some money, even more money spent. People will tell you it's all random, ignore them, they know nothing. In the past, I have made small flash games to simulate certain things, I can certainly whip up a simple upgrade program that simulates the "want" of failures/succeeds. It's actually possible to design enhancement to generate a specific amount of profit per weapon upgrade.
Just a hint, there's lots of ways to generate numbers that appear random, but are in fact molded to make the player pay more and more until they either give up, or achieve a success.
Now having said that, you do what you have to do. Outspark, or whatever, they need money to run the server, pay GMs, ect. Even though our money seems to be wasted more often than a non-profit company taking donations.......They still have to make money from this game. And that's what you need to keep in mind before playing a free MMO. In the end, no matter how good the game is, they will end by adding more and more cash shop upgrades until the game loses popularity. Then they will start another game, even better, super charged graphics and awesome PvP, and the whole process repeats itself...It's a never ending cycle, so I suggest you stick to FPS games or console games.
Plushii
08-04-2008, 06:29 AM
I average spend 25 doller to get an lvl 3 item to +9
It's hard and expensive but worth it :P (if you love the game)
yourmojo
08-04-2008, 06:35 AM
That's like $170+ for a +9 set, every 10 levels......I could upgrade my processor or PSU for that. It's not so much the fact that you don't "need" a +9 set....It's more the fact that it costs such a ridiculous amount of money just to do it.
Ryokosha
08-04-2008, 06:52 AM
It's okay as it is. You are not supposed to get +9 on every single equipment anyways. You are supposed to buy a single stack and blues and reds per equipment and then keep it at whatever high you got it to.
redassassin
08-04-2008, 06:56 AM
There is no fixed saying here so I must give you a simple Idea.
1. Blue Mile: Decresase degrading by (50%~100%)
2. Red Mile : Decrease Wepon Breaking (50% ~ 100%)
3. Gold Nine : Increase sucess rate by (50%~100%)
so if you: Red + Blue + Gold = Full success Item enhancment
up to now, Gold nine are preminum rare Items and is available if you play the Mini game in teh shop window with Remi, with luck you may get it..lol!
sure it sucks I can give you that, because you waste allot of :
1. Real money (between 20~100+$)
2. In game Money (300S ~ 1300S)
3. Temper ( cool---->Faint XD )
4. Patience ( mybe loose your nerves and loose it completely)
Why?
Free game = Business get it?!
Rakeo
08-04-2008, 07:01 AM
Idk y u guys spend real life money jus to have an +9 items and weapons?
Is it so much important to have +9? This is a proof that u are addict to Fiesta if u spend so much real life money. Ofc i understand when u buy only 1 time for sc just for fun but spending so much money for +9 isn't worth
Better as some1 told "make money in game and buy +9 for 1g+"
damon101
08-04-2008, 07:01 AM
i got my +9 lvl 40 bow in 1g...
its simple just get the +9 weapon by buying it and when you get to 50 sell it and you get your money back...
enhencing t1s is easy... i love to make them and try to make my +9
naokosuki
08-04-2008, 08:47 AM
I remember when I asked a GM why it costs so much money, because I was complaining as well, I had spent over 20 dollars.
He had said something along the lines:
"Is it worth it to you?"
It depends if it is or not, usually people dont wish to upgrade unless it's something you really want, and is totally worth it to you.
FernoDragon
08-04-2008, 09:13 AM
Well I dont think enhancing is a waste of time. I guess im just lucky but i get to +6 with only an odd fail. Sometimes i dont even fail all the way up tp +9. I've never spent any money on the outspark site. NONE. I feel bad for the people having enhancing problems. The game is so much fun with the glowing weppons and shields. I am perfectly content on battling and enhancing on my own.
"ITS FERNO TIME ;]!!!"
Celtic_Princess
08-04-2008, 09:23 AM
Idk y u guys spend real life money jus to have an +9 items and weapons?
Is it so much important to have +9? This is a proof that u are addict to Fiesta if u spend so much real life money. Ofc i understand when u buy only 1 time for sc just for fun but spending so much money for +9 isn't worth
Better as some1 told "make money in game and buy +9 for 1g+"
Because I have a steady job and it shows my support for the game and the staff that maintains it. Plus I get a shiny weapon :)
Synthetic_Sheep
08-04-2008, 09:43 AM
lol...I honestly used to get upset about enhancements too, but I've figured that's what makes +9's so VALUABLE. Nobody forced you to buy SC and use the miles and eyes. At least it's less of a pain than trying to enhance WITHOUT them.
I find the cost worth it.
Enhancement is not random either. I have figured out one of the sequences and got all T2 lixes in a row (only 3 tries all success), but I do hear the seq changes constantly. You have to have a sharp eye I guess.
Bottom line, some people will be able to afford it and others won't be. But those who can't afford it, their option is simple: buy a +9 weap from another player. An easy way to make money in the game rapidly is to get a char to L5x and abyss contantly. Outspark needs money to run the game.
I love the shop and all it's goodies, I generally spent $30 for T2 enhancement and $40 for T3. I used to complain to myself about it until I realized this is how the game is able to function, and it's what gives our items value.
Nobody NEEDS outfits, extenders, etc. I saw one of my best guildies hit L52 in a matter of 5 months by playing at most 3 hours on one day and sometimes not at all on others.
BTW: Im auctioning my L50 +9 mace godliness
Only 3 hours till it's declared sold.
Perhaps you'd be interested in one readily made :) :
http://www.outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=95592
redassassin
08-04-2008, 11:08 AM
Without us players who spend real life money on wepons to +9 it, even if you collect allot of in game money we would rearely have +9 wepons right? so we r doing a big help in the community for generations to come..loL!
Saluyac
08-04-2008, 02:26 PM
lol...I honestly used to get upset about enhancements too, but I've figured that's what makes +9's so VALUABLE. Nobody forced you to buy SC and use the miles and eyes. At least it's less of a pain than trying to enhance WITHOUT them.
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Not just a pain, almost impossible, took me 500s to finally make a +9 level 1 sword back when perfects weren't available and I wanted the enhancement god title.
chester17
08-04-2008, 07:11 PM
this is up to individual
some pple like it so they spend money
some dun like it, then u dun spend
This is not the only MMO game
there are many others which requires u to spend money (Optional)
there are alot of my frnez playing and they also spend money.
so no use complain
it normal for outspark to do that (charge us) as they need to earn money
remember, u did not pay any money to download this game
whereby game like PSP, warcraft etc, u pay money to buy
allah654
08-04-2008, 07:16 PM
ENHANCING ****ING SUCKS THERE SHOULDNT BE A ****ING CHANCE TO FAIL EVEN WITH EYES AND MILES IT STILL FAILS I WASTED 10 ****ING DOLLARS OUTSPARK NEEDS TO MAKE THIS **** BETTER BECAUSE IM GETTING ****IGN SICK AND TIRED OF WASTING MY TIME AND MONEY FOR NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad: :mad::mad:
yah i know the feeling i lost 2 steel longs one of them was +8 waaaaaaa:mad:
boodussyd
08-04-2008, 07:16 PM
Calm down, its 10$ not the end of the world.
They use the stones to make money, and with fiesta silver rising, they need a way to get rid of silver, otherwise the game will massively inflate. Inflate = bad, for the most part.
fireyair
08-04-2008, 07:18 PM
yet for some reason... there are always more and more +9 weps appearing
Peace:cool:
lightmaker
08-05-2008, 05:17 PM
HEY GerradHATES, SOME ITEMS U CANT ENHANCE!!!!! SOME ITEMS MUST BE A CERTIAN LVL IN ORDER TO BE ENHANCED!!!!! AND IF U WANT PROOF, LOOK FOR MY MAIN (Menoku). ILL SHOW YOU A ENHANCED ITEM ENHANCED ME!!!!!
Poisoned77
08-05-2008, 06:22 PM
HEY GerradHATES, SOME ITEMS U CANT ENHANCE!!!!! SOME ITEMS MUST BE A CERTIAN LVL IN ORDER TO BE ENHANCED!!!!! AND IF U WANT PROOF, LOOK FOR MY MAIN (Menoku). ILL SHOW YOU A ENHANCED ITEM ENHANCED ME!!!!!
Ahhh,ehhh, okay ...not what they were talking about but whatever....
Takako
08-05-2008, 06:39 PM
Even though a lot of people already said this.
no one forces you to enhance. And by +6 it gets harder to enhance. So theres no reason in blaming the game for wasting your money.
mazeone
08-05-2008, 06:46 PM
I'd rather buy leggo waffles and "enhance" my buff BOD.
touch_of_evil
08-06-2008, 07:09 AM
Rofl. It's amazing how many posts can be achieved through someone complaining about enhancing. ._______________.