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Maxout
08-02-2008, 08:25 PM
Hi i am Majorblaze or some may know me as DKing(main 63 scout) i like to mob in maps that only hit me 1-2 my aco yes a aco likes to mob in lower lvl s maps.

i am tired of ppl thinking they have to help a poor aco that have 10-20 monster on him,yeah i know what u thinking"An aco shouldn't be mobbing(mini aoe)" yeah i know "Acos only have one main attack" so what we have 1 main attack we can still mob.

yeah i know if u wanna mob just go dis at lvl 45 but what if y u wont to heal other ppl and mob u cant do that with a dis.

i am sorry if i am ranting but i feel that acos can also do what Scouts,Knights,Templer,and Rouges etc..........


Support the mobbing acos post what u think

kazuya-str
08-02-2008, 08:52 PM
I tired AoEing as an Acolyte before ._. Everyone rushed in to come save me. -.-
I told them to stop but they continued x.x
I don't see what's wrong with Acolytes mobbing.
So, I think unless the person's running away for their lives...
STAY AWAY FROM ANYONE AoEing and I guess that includes Acos at lower leveled maps -.-

Maxout
08-02-2008, 09:47 PM
thank u somebody sees what i am talking about,if we r not running a way for lives dont help us we can handle r self

Lost_Sage
08-02-2008, 09:57 PM
I don't think Acos/Clerics/Priests have an offensive AOE atk... but it's really their desicion...

Convent
08-02-2008, 10:07 PM
I don't mind and I understand sorta how fun and convenient it is (done it myself a few times) but personally it's kinda rude to claim a whole ton of monsters that you're just going to single-kill. I personally would be really annoyed if a knight or rogue decided to take every monster in a map and hold all of them there single-killing them, claiming all the monsters as theirs.

Beatnic_Jett
08-02-2008, 10:25 PM
Hi i am Majorblaze or some may know me as DKing(main 63 scout) i like to mob in maps that only hit me 1-2 my aco yes a aco likes to mob in lower lvl s maps.

i am tired of ppl thinking they have to help a poor aco that have 10-20 monster on him,yeah i know what u thinking"An aco shouldn't be mobbing(mini aoe)" yeah i know "Acos only have one main attack" so what we have 1 main attack we can still mob.

yeah i know if u wanna mob just go dis at lvl 45 but what if y u wont to heal other ppl and mob u cant do that with a dis.

i am sorry if i am ranting but i feel that acos can also do what Scouts,Knights,Templer,and Rouges etc..........


Support the mobbing acos post what u think

i just use you XD
im trying to get my computer fixed


and um on topic
when acos as me/Dking like to mob in lower lvl maps
the lower lvl maps contain a high amount of nubs correcct
THEY DONT KNOW WHAT AOE IS
so use some white eggs Dking
and if they bother you telll them once and if they cont.
its considered ks report their ***' ^^

Maxout
08-02-2008, 10:26 PM
thats what i am saying if its r chose so aoe then let us do dont just jump in to try to save my life if u see the monster hitting me 1-2 and missing dont help

Beatnic_Jett
08-02-2008, 10:30 PM
I don't mind and I understand sorta how fun and convenient it is (done it myself a few times) but personally it's kinda rude to claim a whole ton of monsters that you're just going to single-kill. I personally would be really annoyed if a knight or rogue decided to take every monster in a map and hold all of them there single-killing them, claiming all the monsters as theirs.

call for a respawn and grab yours XD

Maxout
08-02-2008, 10:35 PM
it's kinda rude to claim a whole ton of monsters that you're just going to single-kill. I personally would be really annoyed if a knight or rogue decided to take every monster in a map and hold all of them there single-killing them, claiming all the monsters as theirs.

i understand wat u r saying but i was aoe in map hardly no one comes to, if i was to aoe in Death Valley it would be rude. if u r aoeing in map no ones is in and just so happen a person comes by and u say "Dont help plz" but the person still help even though they r just going through the map i u should just listen to that person and dont help. then after u say it nice they still is doing it u get mad and say something rude they will get mad and try to report u to GM.

P.S. Sorry if i am getting a little angry but if u see a aco with a whole bunch of monster on him/her ask before u attack that all i ask.

Beatnic_Jett
08-02-2008, 10:40 PM
do what i do buddy leech off your guild XD

wayneth
08-02-2008, 10:44 PM
I get "helped" a.k.a. Ks'd all the time with my aco. I have a squire, a neo, a scout and none of them ever got ks'd the way my aco does.


JUST BECAUSE WERE ACOS DOESN'T MEAN WE NEED YOUR HELP ALL THE TIME!!!!


BTW my acos name is Jebra Leave her the hell alone!!!!!!

Beatnic_Jett
08-02-2008, 10:45 PM
^^shes getting fyste XD

Maxout
08-02-2008, 10:58 PM
lol i like they fyste,but anyway i do use white eggs i even tell them if u see me plz dont help but they just do it anyway i know its not normal to see a aco aoe but if u see aone just ask if we need help

Nights_Fang
08-03-2008, 01:26 AM
Aco KSing is such an old problem. GUYS some of us acos aren't weak useless things only meant for buffing and healing. Some of us CAN tank, and we CAN do it hell BETTER than you CAN.

*Is mad*

kanoona
08-03-2008, 01:51 AM
i understand were u guys are coming from but i jst dnt get why its nessacaroy to round up a whole map of monster if u are single-killing cuz would it really make a differnce to go monster by monster and kill? plus u must be on a way uber easy map compared to your lvling meaning u could go to a higher map and single-kill higher monsters and get better xp and it would be jst as fast since u aren't multi-killing =\
but i understand u telling some one to stop and them not stoping that is rather aggervating ^_^;;
expecaily when they are done ksing u they have the nerve to ask for a buff!!!!
its like O.o??? >_>
hehe

dylanangel
08-03-2008, 02:15 AM
Yea sorry im not really getting the anger. Yes if they continue to "help" after you repeatedly told them you were not needing it then fine but its a given that seeing an aco mobbed sometimes is a bad thing. People are not meaning to be rude when they offer a helping hand so don't really take it that way. I for one am not a person to sit and wait for you to tell me that you don't need help cause im quick to offer it. If after I have given you my assistance and you tell me you didn't need help I will apologize and be on my way.

No one says you guys "can't" do something but lets face it it's not common. I bow down to an aco who can grab a map and kill all mobs at once like a normal aoe. If your grabbin and killing one on one you like your needing help. Good luck

Tatsumiko
08-03-2008, 07:23 AM
actually all my char got ks'ed when i mob :(
even my disc. but once i've told them to stop MANY times i just let them ks me...and go somewhere else:p
or collect more mobs for them to kill while i tank :D

moon.bandit
08-03-2008, 07:32 AM
I enjoy seeing acos mob since I rarely ever see it. ^^ I'm just surprised that a lot of people don't notice the damage that is being dealt to the aco though. If they're only getting hits with ones, twos, or misses, it's a given that the aco doesn't need help. Also the fact that the aco isn't running away is another given.

Go mobbing acos! Love seeing them.

catry
08-03-2008, 09:02 AM
I don't think it's because you're an aco, I think it's because you've got 10-20 mobs on you.

When I started there was only a tiny handful of people who could actually AoE, and when people mobbed in places like north Eir people would either stand and gawk or jump in to "help" because that's a lot of red dots all converging on one person. What do you think, for a new player, their reaction would be seeing a stream of red dots all trailing one person who is running around getting beat up by them? Most players don't see AoE until they reach Eir so seeing a low level aco mobbing would probably be a bit of a shock to them...plus most will never even look into the forums unless they become really involved in the game, so they really have no idea what's going on other than a player getting beat up by mobs. Chances are if you were on the same map on a neo or squire doing the same thing you'd be KS'd just as much...

Btw compared to regular AoE and single killing, mobbing without an AoE skill actually takes twice as long as either of those two because you're still killing one at a time, but now you have to spend time gathering up a mob as well. So unless you're doing it for sheer fun (like me xD) or sheer selfishness, I really don't see a purpose for low level mobbing O.o

CyberPhoenixSlayer
08-03-2008, 09:22 AM
Hmmm, AOE as a Aco? Good question and maybe good thread. I see some mages pull some maps, north of Eir, even if they have lower defense. Why a aco can't do that too. I will do the test later if i have an aco file to go cleric and see if a aco can handle a map like the mage can do. The problem is, they don't have a AoE Atk Skill. What to do about this????:confused:

Character names:
CyberClyde: LV 8X Templar
CyberSlayer: LV 6X Knight
Marshmalow: LV 4X Scout
Bunny Angry: LV 2X Neophythe

tomcat47
08-03-2008, 10:31 AM
i honestly dont see the point of mobbing with no aoe skill...the mobs are weaker obviously and will give way less exp than ones u could single kill...and its just as fast. i guess its for fun? im not sure. o.O

Nights_Fang
08-03-2008, 11:26 AM
Mobbing is totally pointless according to me, but hey some people seem to love it. So who am I to rain on their parade?

Maxout
08-03-2008, 11:31 AM
yeah its fun and for me its easier to me to gain exp my aco is only lvl 29 and i can mob in Death Valley and west Essene. soon i will be mobing fruther in to west essene

SilverTitan
08-03-2008, 11:40 AM
i remember once in titanus just a few days ago i was killing a shakiro then i see a cleric with a mob of 5+ following him. :p

only thing i could say was "o.O"

Propanol
08-03-2008, 12:41 PM
i remember once in titanus just a few days ago i was killing a shakiro then i see a cleric with a mob of 5+ following him. :p

only thing i could say was "o.O"

Hmm, maybe it was me or not. Anyway I was gathering mobs for my friend
apprentice while she was repotting.

justin_2006
08-03-2008, 02:08 PM
i agree with convents post[on first page]

yeah i dont blame anyone for coming and killing some of the monsters that ur "mobbing", acos dont aoe and if one was mobbing around me i wouldnt hesitate to attack some of them... if acos had an actual aoe skill then obviously thats a different story but u shouldnt gather alot of monsters and kill one by one and expect everyone to leave u alone.... especially if u take most of the monsters on the map...

i dont really see the point in anyone mobbing and killing one by one... how is it faster than just training regularly, both ways would be one kill at a time >.>

TRXSTA
08-03-2008, 03:42 PM
Considering you have to go to each of the monsters anyway, basically... the only thing you're doing by mobbing monsters as an aco/ is... taking more damage at a time. That's it.

Mobbing when you can't kill more than one at a time is stupid.

Aclaus
08-03-2008, 05:14 PM
Catry is right. Mobbing without an aoe skill takes more time to lvl and it is being selfish imo. Example: acos mobbing gurons for fw. That just makes me angry, it isnt quicker than killing one at a time, but they do it anyway. Infact anyone mobbing gurons is a selfish jerk. TRX is right also. Mobbing without an aoe skill is pointless.

Maxout
08-03-2008, 10:43 PM
so basically u all r saying just because aco dont have an aoe skill we cant aoe,or mobbing y'all r saying mobbing is selfish wat about ppl that can aoe like in Rudwork,loren etc...........

so if acos cant aoe(mobbing) there shouldn't be aoe at all, its not fair for other classes that have a attack aoe but acos only have healing aoes. i understand we r aco and we should stick to healing, but wat if we wont to heal and attack.

so aco r just in the game for ppl that cant aoe by there self we r just here to heal and not aoe. i dont think thats fair.

P.S. Aoes do the same thing hog all the monster in the maps :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad: :mad::mad:

Nights_Fang
08-04-2008, 12:14 AM
This discussion went from one thing to a completely different thing in a matter of few posts.

Yes in a way mobbing is stupid if you're doing a single kill, but is there really any problem if someone is just doing it for fun on a mob of say 10 monsters?

Now onto what Justin_2006 said. You're post just annoyed me. I'm not being rude, just pointing out how hypocritical what you just posted may be. (And in case I do indeed appear rude, then I apologise in advance.)

i agree with convents post[on first page]

yeah i dont blame anyone for coming and killing some of the monsters that ur "mobbing", acos dont aoe and if one was mobbing around me i wouldnt hesitate to attack some of them... if acos had an actual aoe skill then obviously thats a different story but u shouldnt gather alot of monsters and kill one by one and expect everyone to leave u alone.... especially if u take most of the monsters on the map...

i dont really see the point in anyone mobbing and killing one by one... how is it faster than just training regularly, both ways would be one kill at a time >.>

So basically say if I was on my aco and absolutely bored. And I'm in a map that's rarely used. So I decide to go around gathering a mob of 15 monsters just for fun and kill them. Then someone passes by and attacks them, even though they're dealing damage to me, and I said that I don't need help. According to you that would be all right, since I as an aco don't have an AoE Skill. So you're not doing anything wrong. It's not a KS.

Now taking into consideration you're AoEing around a map. And gathering mobs. And I'm just passing by looking for some quick exp. So is it all right if I come and attack you're AoE mob? They're still doing damage to you. But I'm getting the kills, the drops and the exp. So then going by what you earlier said is it a KS since you do have an AoE Skill?

If you think that way, then you're wrong. Yes a single kill mobber maybe stupid for gathering up a mob. (though I'll admit it's sometimes fun to watch) But if they haven't hogged the whole map, and you have plenty of monsters left, including exclusive drops monsters if you're farming, then why the hell do you have to go and attack their mob? It's still a KS. I'm taking the damage you're getting the benefits. And honestly I wouldn't hesitate you report you for KSing me, because if you attack a mobbers mob you are KSing them.

And yes Maxout is right. There are some people that hog a whole map while AoEing. Are you saying that's right too? As long as they have AoE skills is it fair for them to hog all the monsters on a map? (and please don't give me the sucky exp crap. Because I know about, and I've seen people deal with it, w/o having to hog a whole map) Or are you saying acos and clerics should just stick to being party dependent idiots, who are useless otherwise, so hence just wait till they get a party?

Yes I still say mobbing is stupid. I'm one of those who can't understand the concept of "mobbing" per say. And I don't think I'll ever do it till I get an AoE skill. But facts are facts, there are some people who like to do it. They have fun doing it. And they will continue to do it. Especially some acos with really good gears, who don't want to be party dependent like we're supposed to be. You can't change the way they think. And if you kill a monster "mobbers" mob YOU ARE KS-ing. Just like if you killed a monster from an AoEr's mob.

There I've said my bit. I'm out.

(O.o I ended up turning this into a long winded rant. Sorry guys)

TRXSTA
08-04-2008, 08:56 AM
I'd just like to clarify. Go ahead and mob. But if you're on my map and you - as an aco - take everything, I will "save" you. If you feel like mobbing a portion of the map (and I must still point out there is no benefit whatsoever if you can only solo kill them), I'll gladly leave you to your fun and kill other things.

@ DKing : "we are just here to... not aoe". Exactly. Glad we understand each other now. It's selfish because... you can't kill it until you've killed that one. And that one. And that one. Yet you've claimed it. The developers decided you shouldn't have an offensive aoe, not us here in the community.

thrakx
08-04-2008, 09:06 AM
not to mention that acolytes are HEALERS and SUPPORT class. If you want to tank as a acolyte go disciple FFS. Stop crying about stuff that isnt an issue. I mean NO you as an aco SHOULDNT be mobbing seriously. Casual mobbing of course for fun is different. However, since considering that acos take longer to lvl up than anything else, and you just DOUBLED the work you have to do by training a huge mob that you have to single kill, i dont think you have any right to complain about this stuff.

YOU picked a class with no AOE skill. YOU were misinformed about something at some point. dont cry about AOE cause YOU picked tha wrong class, change to disciple if you have to, or TRY another class FFS.

Dont Cry, its unattractive.

Tatsumiko
08-04-2008, 10:09 AM
but i'm setting record by mobbing with every class (which left only scout, which i'm making) and yes i've mobbed with my xenian >_>. even my app at lv 20+
but i'm not killing them anyhow. i just walked to someone and ask if they would like to kill some X3 (with my disc mostly, usually after i'm bored lvling my aco)

but i must say something to any aco who mob to train. don't do it >_>
ur wasting mp to heal urself and also time cuz someone's bound to ks u
but for fun...count me in XD

justin_2006
08-04-2008, 11:02 AM
This discussion went from one thing to a completely different thing in a matter of few posts.

Yes in a way mobbing is stupid if you're doing a single kill, but is there really any problem if someone is just doing it for fun on a mob of say 10 monsters?

Now onto what Justin_2006 said. You're post just annoyed me. I'm not being rude, just pointing out how hypocritical what you just posted may be. (And in case I do indeed appear rude, then I apologise in advance.)



So basically say if I was on my aco and absolutely bored. And I'm in a map that's rarely used. So I decide to go around gathering a mob of 15 monsters just for fun and kill them. Then someone passes by and attacks them, even though they're dealing damage to me, and I said that I don't need help. According to you that would be all right, since I as an aco don't have an AoE Skill. So you're not doing anything wrong. It's not a KS.

Now taking into consideration you're AoEing around a map. And gathering mobs. And I'm just passing by looking for some quick exp. So is it all right if I come and attack you're AoE mob? They're still doing damage to you. But I'm getting the kills, the drops and the exp. So then going by what you earlier said is it a KS since you do have an AoE Skill?

If you think that way, then you're wrong. Yes a single kill mobber maybe stupid for gathering up a mob. (though I'll admit it's sometimes fun to watch) But if they haven't hogged the whole map, and you have plenty of monsters left, including exclusive drops monsters if you're farming, then why the hell do you have to go and attack their mob? It's still a KS. I'm taking the damage you're getting the benefits. And honestly I wouldn't hesitate you report you for KSing me, because if you attack a mobbers mob you are KSing them.

And yes Maxout is right. There are some people that hog a whole map while AoEing. Are you saying that's right too? As long as they have AoE skills is it fair for them to hog all the monsters on a map? (and please don't give me the sucky exp crap. Because I know about, and I've seen people deal with it, w/o having to hog a whole map) Or are you saying acos and clerics should just stick to being party dependent idiots, who are useless otherwise, so hence just wait till they get a party?

Yes I still say mobbing is stupid. I'm one of those who can't understand the concept of "mobbing" per say. And I don't think I'll ever do it till I get an AoE skill. But facts are facts, there are some people who like to do it. They have fun doing it. And they will continue to do it. Especially some acos with really good gears, who don't want to be party dependent like we're supposed to be. You can't change the way they think. And if you kill a monster "mobbers" mob YOU ARE KS-ing. Just like if you killed a monster from an AoEr's mob.

There I've said my bit. I'm out.

(O.o I ended up turning this into a long winded rant. Sorry guys)



no no....
see i didnt say if u[the aco] is "running" around and getting a mob together
i mean if ur sitting there killing one at a time and someone attacks one then dont flame them... ur not even meant to aoe... and if ur doing outta boredom then it shouldnt be much of a problem if someone attacks a couple...

and i dont think i am wrong anyway... wait, why should an aco be "mobbing" in the first place?

--edit--
its different anyway when u attack a mob an actual aoer is pulling, they ACTUALLY plan on killing them all at one time so its not like u have to wait long.... i wouldnt consider attacking an acos mob as ksing... they are gonna take forever to kill that group of monsters, and just to point out i was saying its fine to attack EVERYONES mob >.>
only those who cant officially aoe...

Nights_Fang
08-04-2008, 11:10 AM
not to mention that acolytes are HEALERS and SUPPORT class. If you want to tank as a acolyte go disciple FFS. Stop crying about stuff that isnt an issue. I mean NO you as an aco SHOULDNT be mobbing seriously. Casual mobbing of course for fun is different. However, since considering that acos take longer to lvl up than anything else, and you just DOUBLED the work you have to do by training a huge mob that you have to single kill, i dont think you have any right to complain about this stuff.

YOU picked a class with no AOE skill. YOU were misinformed about something at some point. dont cry about AOE cause YOU picked tha wrong class, change to disciple if you have to, or TRY another class FFS.

Dont Cry, its unattractive.

No one's crying thrakx. (unless I actually missed it.)

Yes Acolytes are healers and support classes. But generally if you look at other games healers still have a playable game even if they choose to solo. Aco's here don't. But there are a few hardheaded idiots who still like to prove ppl wrong and yes they do manage to do it. And stop saying acos can't tank, and if they want to they should go disc. I've seen acos tank a whole hell lot of better than some discs and squires, and still manage to PWN.

And ideally no one should be mobbing till they get an AoE skill. But hell Like I said some people want to play the game that way. And as long as they aren't inconveniencing anyone, I sure as hell am not going to grumble about it. I have better things to direct my aggressions towards anyway. When it comes to SotS we all do actually.

Nights_Fang
08-04-2008, 11:20 AM
Sorry for the double post just saw this one:

no no....
--edit--
its different anyway when u attack a mob an actual aoer is pulling, they ACTUALLY plan on killing them all at one time so its not like u have to wait long.... i wouldnt consider attacking an acos mob as ksing... they are gonna take forever to kill that group of monsters, and just to point out i was saying its fine to attack EVERYONES mob >.>
only those who cant officially aoe...

Agreed that acos don't have an AoE skill. And really no one gets AoE skills till lvl 46+ (If I'm not mistaken squires get reflection, and it's an AoE skill?)

Yes compared to a mobber who gathers a mob to single kill, and an AoEr who pulls mobs to kill at once, I know you're point. What I'm saying is that in an AoE if someone gathers a whole map, and hogs all the monsters and respawns, not much is said about it. And it's seen as a KS, if someone kills a monster from that mob. Why not for a mobber? After all the mobber is pulling mobs, and is taking damage. And if you do take a monster from their mob, while the monster is still whaking away at it, it's still a legitimate KS.

Yes I personally find mobbing stupid and time wasting. And if I ever end up doing it, it either because I lagged while running and whacked a whole lot of monsters on my way. Or because I'm absolutely bored. But some people do consider it a serious way of levelling, compared to ordinary partying or solo-killing. And if you do take one of their monsters they will find it offensive, just like an AoEr will find it offensive if you steal some monsters from his/her mob.

justin_2006
08-04-2008, 11:30 AM
Yes compared to a mobber who gathers a mob to single kill, and an AoEr who pulls mobs to kill at once, I know you're point. What I'm saying is that in an AoE if someone gathers a whole map, and hogs all the monsters and respawns, not much is said about it. And it's seen as a KS, if someone kills a monster from that mob. Why not for a mobber? After all the mobber is pulling mobs, and is taking damage. And if you do take a monster from their mob, while the monster is still whaking away at it, it's still a legitimate KS.



a "mobber" with no aoe skill whatsoever goes and pulls a big mob, its pretty senseless, if someone goes to attack one monster in that mob why should the mobber get mad?? as if he were gonna kill that monster anytime soon >.>[of course i dont mean the monster that the mobber is currently attacking, that of course would deff. be a ks]

like a mobber goes and gets a mob of maybe.... 15 monsters
someone else comes and attacks one of them while the mobber is currently killing off just one
well the mobber was gonna have to kill 13 more monsters after the one he was attacking to kill the one that the alegged "kser" attacked, in the meantime, while the mobber is killing the monsters there is probably more monsters showing up[either respawning or just walking] so why complain? when he could just go and gather another mob just as fast since hes killing one by one they will respawn as fast as he kills, whereas an actual aoer gathers a larger mob and they ALL respawn when hes done[and they all die as if he were killing just one, since all are attacked at the same time]...

Nights_Fang
08-04-2008, 11:52 AM
Yeah but then the same thing could be said by someone who steals an AoErs monsters while they're gathering mobs. After all "He wasn't going to kill them yet right? He was STILL Gathering."

catry
08-04-2008, 01:27 PM
In terms of KS'ing, yes if you are a mobbing aco and someone hits your monsters it's a KS.

But if you're mobbing on an aco (or any char with no AoE skill for that matter), the only two reasons I can think of would be that you are having fun or that you are trying to hog all the mobs on the map to yourself, because without an AoE skill killing those mobs would take you much more time and MP then if you killed them 1 at a time, because in the end you end up killing them one at a time anyway, plus now you have to add in the time it takes to mob them, including stopping to heal often. Whereas if you took them 1 at a time and kited them normally, not only would you avoid being hit and thus saving MP on heals (thus saving you money on MP pots), chances are kiting would bring you right next to another mob. Likewise, if you had an AoE skill you would be able to kill the entire mob in the amount of time it takes to kill 2 or 3 monsters (if you're good) using only the MP needed to kill 2 or 3 monsters. The map is then instantly repopulated rather than spending several extra minutes empty as the monsters respawn 1 by 1.

Moreover, lower levelled players are not expected to mob or AoE; if they were they would have been given an AoE skill early on. Thus, most players don't even know about AoE until they reach level 40 and see AoE in Eir. To them any player with 3 or more monsters on them is most likely in trouble, so if you do plan to burn some time and mob a lower level map be prepared for people with good intentions but limited understanding of the game. If you're going to complain about these being KS's than I will have to guess that you're motivate by nothing more than selfish desire for every mob on the map, be it gurons or whatnot o.O

Plus complaining here probably isn't going to do you any good seeing as it's really done nothing other than provoke yet another debate about the morality of AoE... O.o

(For this reason I also don't see partial AoE like Reflect AoE as being particularly efficient either btw >.>)

Beatnic_Jett
08-04-2008, 02:03 PM
he isnt "hogging a mob him self"
and it dosnt have to be aoe to contain a whole map to yourself either
truely
you CAN do WHAT you want to and WHEN you want to
if hes contain his mob and some ks him he should just report them

theres nothing wrong with containing a mob UNLESS the gms say so

catry
08-04-2008, 02:37 PM
he isnt "hogging a mob him self"
and it dosnt have to be aoe to contain a whole map to yourself either
truely
you CAN do WHAT you want to and WHEN you want to
if hes contain his mob and some ks him he should just report them

theres nothing wrong with containing a mob UNLESS the gms say so

umm, I never said there was anything against the rules about it. I said it was inefficient, a waste of MP pots, and selfish.

Please actually read my post before posting next time.

Maxout
08-04-2008, 03:01 PM
YOU picked a class with no AOE skill. YOU were misinformed about something at some point. dont cry about AOE cause YOU picked tha wrong class, change to disciple if you have to, or TRY another class FFS.

Dont Cry, its unattractive.

i didst know this thread was for meeting ppl,i must clean my self up-_-

but besides that the point i am trying to make is if u see an aco mobbing in a map that ppl barely go to dont just jump in and help because its an aco if u see that they r hitting from miss-2 dont help we can heal r self,and for the Dont cry quote if u dont like wat i am saying dont read this this then. that will solve that problem.

kanoona
08-04-2008, 03:14 PM
okay yea if not ones on the map its okay but as u said early death valley
new people have noooo clue whats going on and its not even mobing if u are single killing do u not get that. Actualy they are not ksing becuase u are only attacking one they would be ksing if they took the one u were attacking but if they left u with that one its not attacking since u are not AoE then its not a ks =\
acos can tank thats been proven we are jst saying it IS selfish because its taking everyone twice as long to lvl on that map cuz they are waiting for u 2 kill off your mobs one by one which techniclay aren't even yours sense u can't aoe, only 1 of them is yours =\

thrakx
08-04-2008, 03:44 PM
ok i see the point of the thread- KSing is lame. I just agree w cat that low lvl mobbing is stupid cause it takes more time than it pays off.

mirouku
08-04-2008, 03:56 PM
O.o disruption in solstice FTL T.T
k a few things... one: mobbing is VERY fun
two:they fixed the chat box glitch, so how hard is it to say "need help?"
three:I WANT MY AOE SKILL ALREADY >.<

aggrowave
08-04-2008, 04:11 PM
I was a mobbing aco and it was so annoying

JUST BECAUSE IM AN ACO DOESN'T MEAN I NEED SOMEONE TO TAKE CARE OF ME
Its actually one of the reasons i went disc. I want to do it by myself.*with the exception f my honey*

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Lunaura and
Silent Shota
Forever


Lunaura is out. :)

Summoner_Shiina
08-04-2008, 04:45 PM
I gotta say, I'm still a little fuzzy on what everyone's talkin about, but there is a clear difference between AOE and mob hogging...

Maxout
08-04-2008, 06:44 PM
Aoe is when u attack all monster at once,Mobbing is where u have a mob attacking u(like aoe) but u kill one at a time.

K so the rule is u r mobbing and other ppl attack monster that r not attacking u it not ks,and the other rule .
is if u wanna mob or aoe as a aco just go dis

Beatnic_Jett
08-04-2008, 06:47 PM
umm, I never said there was anything against the rules about it. I said it was inefficient, a waste of MP pots, and selfish.

Please actually read my post before posting next time.

HA good point i skimmed
sorry ^^'

Nights_Fang
08-04-2008, 11:18 PM
okay yea if not ones on the map its okay but as u said early death valley
new people have noooo clue whats going on and its not even mobing if u are single killing do u not get that. Actualy they are not ksing becuase u are only attacking one they would be ksing if they took the one u were attacking but if they left u with that one its not attacking since u are not AoE then its not a ks =\
acos can tank thats been proven we are jst saying it IS selfish because its taking everyone twice as long to lvl on that map cuz they are waiting for u 2 kill off your mobs one by one which techniclay aren't even yours sense u can't aoe, only 1 of them is yours =\

Actually no even if they're not hitting the monster and you kill it it still can be seen as a ks. It's doing damage to them and it IS part of their mob since they have gone around gathering it, just like an AoE mob.

Yeah I find mobbing stupid too, but hey some people love it even though it's a complete waste of time, and in game money. And they get very mad when someone steals their mob. Ever more so than an AoEr gathering a mob, from some cases I've seen. And in some weird twisted way mobbing is a prelude to AoE. So as along as they aren't inconveniencing anyone at all, they can do whatever the hell they want. Whatever the hell rocks their boat. Beatnik is right, there isn't any rule against mobbing.

kanoona
08-04-2008, 11:41 PM
no ones saying there are and specail rules but if people are gonna get upset and whine about it they should be able to take the other sides point of view to
and no its not there mob if they are single killing they aren't hiting it.
in aoe it is there mob because they are attacking all of them which does afftect them if some one comes up and kills them.
and im not saying thats the officail mob rules im jst saying technicly its not there mobs
and for aoe or jst mobing either way its wrong to hog a map.

Nights_Fang
08-05-2008, 01:17 AM
no ones saying there are and specail rules but if people are gonna get upset and whine about it they should be able to take the other sides point of view to
and no its not there mob if they are single killing they aren't hiting it.
in aoe it is there mob because they are attacking all of them which does afftect them if some one comes up and kills them.
and im not saying thats the officail mob rules im jst saying technicly its not there mobs
and for aoe or jst mobing either way its wrong to hog a map.

I'm talking about when the AoEr is still gathering his/her mob. Technically the monster isn't theirs anymore once they switch to gathering another monster, so it's open for anyone else to take it.

justin_2006
08-05-2008, 11:05 AM
ummm really... i dont think anyone is gonna get anywhere in this thread...

everyone keeps saying the same thing over and over[either for acos mobbing or against them]



oh and lol @beatnic, ive never seen anyone with a red reputation *rofl*



--edit--
im still against ANYONE who doesnt have an official aoe mobbing...
i truely see a big difference between mobbing[single killing] and aoe[killing all at once]...
but again, the arguements in this thread are just repeats >.>[thats not meant to flame anyone either]