Support Cleric Build?

[fulara]

As I couldn't find anything useful on the forum, I decided to post my own thread.

I play Fiesta with a group of people constantly, I'm used to playing Mages, but our group were face with a problem -- we had no cleric.

I decided I'd be the cleric, only thing is the cleric we need would have to be a full support one, only I can't seem to find any suggestion on FS builds on this forum.

Could anyone help with how much I'd need to add to each stat?

I already accidently added 1 on STR [my mouse double clicks, and it's sensitive], 1 one END and 2 on SPR.

Any build suggestions?

[sKariin]

Full support one? I think you can get bored with it eventually :/

I think for that kind of cleric a full SPR would be the best option. And spend your skill points on cooldown and SP cost on Heal =P

Tho you should wait for another opinion XD

[buunyhole]

I hav a related question, tho one about skill empowerments. The way i calculate it, with 1 skill pt every 2 lvl i shood hav 30 by L60, rite? Im using 15 for Heal Power/Cooldown/SP and that leaves 15 since i dont intend to empower attacking skills. For a supportive role, would it be better to save them all up til L60 and then dump all 15 into Recover? That is my plan rite now, but i dont really know anything about high lvl pt'ing and such to inform that decision. Its just based purely on my hatred of having to individually heal ppl in my pts -_- Is Recover a big deal at higher lvls? Or wood Rejuvenate be a better choice? In either case, i'll be using all 15 points in the same way as for Heal, if that matters...

Also, i hav 30 points into END atm and hav officially become fed up of my low dmg while soloing/questing so i've begun adding points into STR way ahead of schedule. However, i was wondering if it would be a better idea to increase my dmg output over time to increase SPR rather than STR and hope a decent crit streak outweighs smaller boosts to dmg per hit from STR. I'm going to be L30 soon enough, so i can easily reset out the STR so far based on responses...

[Empathys]

Original Post

First off, don't worry about the misplaced Stat Point. At level 30 you complete a special quest from Shutian, I think, that gives you 10 Free Stat Reset scrolls. Onwards!

Here's how I recommend a Full Support set-up:

Free Stat:

15 - 25 Spr for more SP in the lower levels and M.Def later on.

50+ End for Def and HP at all levels. I hear that after 50 End you stop gaining or get reduced Shield Block Rate and Defense bonuses, but I'm unsure of this.

Remaining Dex for increased Evasion (or keep adding to End.)

Skill Points:

5 Cooldown on Heal.
5 SP Cost on Heal.
5 Heal 'Damage'.

2 Duration of Invincible.

5 Cooldown on Rejuvenate.
5 Heal 'Damage' (Optional.)

5 Cooldown on Recover.
5 Heal 'Damage' (Optional.)

5 Cooldown on Quicken (Optional.)

That's just the basics but the most important. Feel free to PM if you have any other questions.


For a supportive role, would it be better to save them all up til L60 and then dump all 15 into Recover?

Well, I'm Full Support and I don't use Recover unless it's an emergency or I'm in a KQ. The reason being that it draws so much agro from anything around that if your Fighter isn't keeping tabs on everything you will be mobbed awfully quick. I would just stick with 5 Points on Cooldown or 5 Points on Heal 'Damage'.

Rejuvenate, in my opinion, doesn't need anything but CD since it already heals a massive amount. Slip it in between Heals CD and you can do 3k+ in less than 2 seconds every 5 seconds (if you have Rejuvenate on Max CD.)


However, i was wondering if it would be a better idea to increase my dmg output over time to increase SPR rather than STR and hope a decent crit streak outweighs smaller boosts to dmg per hit from STR. I'm going to be L30 soon enough, so i can easily reset out the STR so far based on responses...

There really isn't one answer to that. If you plan on soloing a fair amount of the time it would probably be good to have Str and Spr. If you plan on being more towards Support, I would do just Spr since you would have more to gain (Crit + M.Def) instead of just damage if you were to use Str.

Same as above, PM if you have any more questions and I'll see what I can do.

[Thasmudyan]

For a support cleric, END is your primary stat, simply because there isn't a stat that helps you heal more efficiently, so your only concern (stat-wise) is defense.

I don't recommend SPR; see here (http://outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=87687) for my thoughts on that stat. From a support perspective, though, SP just isn't an issue at high levels, and more SP won't help your stones restore more, so you only need SPR for the M.def, which isn't used much at all - better off adding physical Def from END.

So, I would say the best support build is full END. DEX is an option, too - although I believe that block rate from END is more useful for clerics than evasion from DEX (even at 50+ end).

For gear, focus on END, DEX, SPR (in that order). These are all defensive stats (END for HP and def, DEX for evasion, and SPR for M.def).

Empowerments - I agree mostly with the ones Empathys suggested. Heal is your most-used skill, so put 15 points in that first.

After Heal - 1 point in Invincible is good, or if you use it a lot, go for the full 5 points of duration. Don't stop at 2-4 points, you get the biggest benefit from your first point and your last point.

Rejuvenate cooldown and power I do recommend. You don't need Rejuvenate power till 70+ probably, but when you start partying in Trumpy Remains with tanks who have 7k hp, you will love empowered Rejuvenate. Do cooldown for Rejuvenate as soon as you can, it helps a lot.

Recover - You can't empower it for power, which really hurts its usefulness, but if you have left over points you can empower its cooldown. I don't use it a lot in parties, but it is situationally useful. (I don't have it empowered, and I do fine without it, so you can probably spend these points better elsewhere).

One final note - You can do well supporting even if you do add free stat STR. So, if you do solo or fight in parties sometimes, but still want to focus on support, consider a 50 END rest STR build and empower Bash for damage/cooldown. It'll give you a bit of versatility while not really hurting your ability to support.

[buunyhole]

OK, from both responses so far im gonna stick to my 50END, rest STR build i hav planned to go with at first (I'm just splitting the 50END into the 30 i hav now, then get some STR til i'm less annoyed at my dmg and fill in the 20 later). I didnt know u cant empower Recover's power so thats 5 less points i can put into it at all, and then since it seems Recover gets far less use than i thought it would, SP consumption is no longer an isssue for me so another 5 freed up. So...i'm thinking 5 into Invincible duration? (I've used Inv once since i got it...on myself...for fun...but if its useful later, i guess it cant hurt) and 5 on Bash Power. Rejuvenate will get attention later on...

[Empathys]

Yeah, Invinc is pretty useful later on for those "osh-" moments or when you need to focus on killing off an enemy and don't want to break attacks while soloing.

[TrinityJadeLea]

ok im not sure about the whole support cleric thing. i can do both sides.... solo and party. my build is as follows.

STR +5
DEX +2 and adding
END +50
SPR +25
INT 0

as for skill empowerment i recommend not adding anything to invincible bacause it doesnt do much for the cool down. only 9 seconds off of 2 minutes. yeah it helps but not that much. i would strongly recommend adding to the cool down of skills. heal is the only one where you can actually use the heal "damage". you can't on rejuvenate or recover. at 67 you get quicken. i would stronly suggest saving some of your points for cool down of this skill since it is 4 minutes. i dont think that there is any one particular build for "support or soloing" it just depends on how well you are able to use your skills. like i said i can do both party and solo. i have gotten compliments from many higher levels as to how well i am able to keep party members alive because i use all of my skills not just a few. at higher levels you have ot know how to use them or you and/ or party members will die. if you have any questins you can contact me in game or on the forums. i will try to answer your questions as best i can

[thechaz]

support build

stats:
pure end
50/50 spr end

skills

heal
c/d maxed
power maxed

invincible
c/d maxed
duration maxed

rejuvenate
c/d maxed

both aoe heal
c/d maxed

thats all the skills u need as far as i can remember. and remember never ad sp cut to a cleric skill there is no point cause we can hold obscene amounts of stones